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Post by LanceM on Feb 9, 2005 0:29:02 GMT
It always seems strange that some missing episodes of Doctor Who lie in a pile of garbage. Such as the case with some of the Who episodes that were thrown in a rubbish tip in New Zealand. This may be way out there, but I was just wondering why someone has not thought of dredging up some episodes from a rubbish tip? Granted they have been down there a long time, but dont some of those old film cans sealed up pretty tight? Just a wild thought on episode recovery. Doubt that it will ever happen but still interesting to think about never the less. Anybody else have any comments (NOT RUDE REMARKS) that they would like to share?
Thanks,Lance.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 9, 2005 0:48:23 GMT
A number of points on this one:
1 - Film cans aren't watertight.
2 - Rubbish in tips is tightly compacted
3 - Film is hygroscopic. As soon as film comes into contact with moisture, the emulsion expands and detaches from the celluoid.
4 - No one in their right mind would want to go searching through hundreds of thoudands of tons of rubbish! How icky!
Richard
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Post by LanceM on Feb 9, 2005 1:03:38 GMT
Those points all are very good. Granted I did not expect that anyone would undertake such an quest. It was just a passing thought. who knows one of my posting ideas here might lead to an episode being recovered, you never know.
Lance.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 9, 2005 20:15:54 GMT
on Feb 8th, 2005, 7:29pm, LanceM wrote:It always seems strange that some missing episodes of Doctor Who lie in a pile of garbage.
Why is that strange? Back in 1970 it was a perfectly acceptable method of disposing of unwanted films. That was how they did it back then, in the days before you were born...
Jon
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Post by Lance M on Feb 9, 2005 21:49:03 GMT
That is true, that back then that was common practice. But I was just saying that now in this day and age of nostalgia it sems a little archaic. That is all, it is just a thought that is all. And please dont anyone take offense at something said that might of offended someone. Any other ideas or intelligent comments would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Post by Martin Dunne on Mar 3, 2005 6:53:38 GMT
Let's approach this from the aspect of locating the garbage from the era (as opposed to what condition the film would be in).
Firstly, it would be laid down in strips.
Then bulldozed and compacted (or recompacted).
Then passed over with later garbage.
Finally, if they're anything like us over the Tasman, the waste is built up in layers and the tip is eventually closed when it's considered full.
In the recent case of finding a murder victim, Australian police had to find the approptiate strip and excavate.
Finding the right level from thirty years ago is possible, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Or perhaps I should?
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Post by Steven Sigel on Mar 3, 2005 18:45:10 GMT
Just to reiterate what some other people have said -- even if you were to find where they dumped the prints and managed to dig through the other 25 years of garbage to find them there is 0% chance that there would be anything salvagable left. Moisture ruins film emulsion - no ifs ands or buts...
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Post by LanceM on Mar 4, 2005 7:21:30 GMT
StevenS,
You are probably right, I just thought at the time that it might spark some new ideas of episode recovery. I did not really expect people to take it serriously. Just a fun topic to have mulling in our brains.
Thanks, Lance.
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Mar 4, 2005 22:57:34 GMT
Hello all.
I've had a prune of this thread because some people have been giving others a bit of a hard time. Whilst I understand uninformed posters can be a bit frustrating, this is not some exclusive club. All are welcome so I would expect people to get involved in the debates and enjoy themselves, not poke fun at each other.
The only exception to this is if someone appears demanding the music deleted from the DVD of Spearhead from Space to be reinstated on their personal copy. You can call whoever that is all the names under the sun.
No smart alec posts demanding the reinstatement of said music please.
My regards,
Paul
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Post by Mike Smallman on Mar 5, 2005 3:33:03 GMT
Well said my old mate Paul.Just got my first computer & its a joy to see you being the Paul I have known & loved for years You & the RT team are doing a great job...Keep it up.  |
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Post by Nigel Bland on Mar 5, 2005 22:03:43 GMT
...if someone appears demanding the music deleted from the DVD of Spearhead from Space to be reinstated on their personal copy. You can call whoever that is all the names under the sun. Or refer then to the answer given on Roobarb - "If it's that important to you, just play the bloody record at the appropriate point!" |
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Post by LanceM on Mar 5, 2005 23:22:33 GMT
I was not aware that there is any music missing from the DVD version of Spearhead From Space? How much music is missing, if I may ask?
Thanks,Lance.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Mar 5, 2005 23:30:13 GMT
20 seconds.
Richard
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Post by LanceM on Mar 6, 2005 0:02:51 GMT
There is something else I have been wondering lately. Exactly how do I access the easter egg abominable snowmen trailer feature? On the american region 1 DVD? If anyone could help me here that would be great.
Thanks,Lance.
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Post by Ben on Mar 10, 2005 18:27:56 GMT
Even if it were possible for episodes to survive (which I'm sure it's 100% not possible - correct?), some landfils have had roads or buildings erected on top of them, so, it would be impossible to recover them.
I think we can safely 100% certainly say that no episodes will be recovered from landfils... unfortunately. A very interesting idea though.
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