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Post by eulys barker on Nov 28, 2004 3:17:40 GMT
Hi, A friend of mind from New Zealand was looking through a jumble sale on Saturday and asked the owner if he had any old films, he then showed him a can with the inscription showing "Dr Who - The Top Of The World." The owner said it wasn't for sale.
So my friend George Talley emailed me here in Wales and i'm posting this as you may be interested,
Regards
Eulys Barker
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Post by B Thomas on Nov 28, 2004 9:01:02 GMT
Hmmm... As much as I'm sure we'd all like this to be true it sounds as if it could be a hoax...
For the record the NZBC is supposed to have sent on this episode ("The Roof of the World") and the one following ("The Singing Sands") to Iran in 1967...
A little difficult to believe then that a telerecording of this episode would still be doing the rounds within NZ in 2004. It would also explain why the seller was unprepared to sell it - it did not exist!
Did your friend view the actual celluloid? (a mission in itself if he didn't have access to a projector) Quite possibly what has happened here is that the seller has an empty film can that he has labelled himself in order to start the next generation of rumours...
Sorry to urinate on your battery - but there you go...
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 28, 2004 12:58:35 GMT
So this person had just happened to take along to a jumble sale something that he had no intention of selling?
Yeah, right! ;D
Richard
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Post by Robert Carns on Nov 28, 2004 19:55:17 GMT
You were there Richard?
Many people have garage sales and show off with no intention of selling what they have when interested parties show an interest.
Agree the story sounds implausible but you can't dismiss it so offhand
Robert
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 28, 2004 21:05:09 GMT
Nope. But then I don't need to have been. it's the usual format for badly made up internet missing-episode rumours. A "friend" happens to have come across a missing episode and the name of the episode reported is 90% correct. Heard it all before! I've been going to jumble sales for over 30 years and I've never met anyone who has just brought along something they have no intention of selling just for a laugh, so I don't know wha these "many people" you're talking about are! I just did! Oh, and there's no one with the name "Eulys Barker" listed on the electoral register or telephone directories anywhere in the UK. In fact, there's not a single person named "Eulys" listed! Could be one of the small handful not listed in either, but it certainly adds to the implausability! ;D Richard |
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Post by Exiled Yorkie on Nov 29, 2004 0:17:02 GMT
Coincidentally does anybody know if channel 13 pbs in nyc has shown doctor who at any stage. I have heavy metal friends( from the nj/nyc hard rock scene) who have possible access to the archives. I was told that there are still uncataloged tins hanging around. I did email the RT team about this , but Im convinced they think Im a crank. Overly excitable yes, crank no.
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Post by exiled yorkie on Nov 29, 2004 0:18:15 GMT
What I mean is my friends work at the PBS station in NYC.
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Post by Lance on Nov 29, 2004 3:37:34 GMT
You might want to ask them to look through the unlabled film collection. Doctor Who episodes have turned up in stranger places before. Like the two episodes of the daleks masterplan that were uncovered in the bottom of a Mormon Church. What harm can, it do, ask them and see what turns up.
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Post by Darren Menzie on Nov 29, 2004 3:54:50 GMT
I think there may be some confusion here?
Garage Sale/Jumble Sale
Here in Australia a garage sale is at a persons home and I have been to many looking for coins and on many occassions have been shown peoples own collections which they are not interested in selling : So this story may ring true a bit in that sense.
I don't know if a jumble sale is the same thing or not. Do people all bring stuff to the one site to sell?
Story sounds unlikely if the only copy to go to NZ was officialy passed on to Iran as B. Thomas pointed out earlier.
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Post by Lance on Nov 29, 2004 4:03:33 GMT
Yes that may be true, but that does not necessarily mean that Iran recived the episode. As was said earlier in the who is allah thread that Iran might have rejected the episode and it either could of been sent back to New Zealand where the television studio was confused and just decided to junk it. Where a employee or other party may of lifted the episode and kept it for home viewing, or just for a collectors sake. Maybe for once this rumor could be true and another episode of Doctor Who could be shown to the world and fans alike.
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Post by Lance on Dec 5, 2004 2:30:45 GMT
Hey out there!
Has anyone heard back about that rumored episode one of Marco Polo yet? Any Moderators hear anything? Is anything going on lately? Oh, on a thread that I read a while ago someone was talking about a guy in Australia who might have the complete episodes of The Space Pirates and full color of Mind Of Evil, any new news on this topic?
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Post by ethantyler on Dec 14, 2004 3:12:49 GMT
I agree with Richard. Besides, if the collector did indeed have Marco Polo: The Roof of the World and knew its true value, he certainly wouldn't have brought it to the sale to advertise its existance or risk it getting stolen or damanged. Also, I'm sure the can would have been labelled correctly even if the collector had labelled it himself.
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Post by andrewainsworth on Dec 15, 2004 11:09:34 GMT
It certainly rings off a rumour. NZTV sold their copy to the middle east as mentioned before.
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Post by AndyMcKinney on Dec 15, 2004 13:36:46 GMT
Coincidentally does anybody know if channel 13 pbs in nyc has shown doctor who at any stage. I have heavy metal friends( from the nj/nyc hard rock scene) who have possible access to the archives. I was told that there are still uncataloged tins hanging around. I did email the RT team about this , but Im convinced they think Im a crank. Overly excitable yes, crank no. Even if your PBS station has shown Doctor Who, they won't have any "film tins" of missing Hartnell/Troughton episodes lying around, the simple reason being that no B/W episodes were sold to ANY American stations until the 1980s, by which time all the junkings had already taken place. The BEST your friends can hope to find are some colour NTSC videotapes of missing colour Pertwee episodes (Amabassadors, Mind of Evil, etc.). |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Dec 15, 2004 22:01:36 GMT
Hi, A friend of mind from New Zealand was looking through a jumble sale on Saturday and asked the owner if he had any old films, he then showed him a can with the inscription showing "Dr Who - The Top Of The World." The owner said it wasn't for sale. So my friend George Talley emailed me here in Wales and i'm posting this as you may be interested, Regards Eulys Barker Where abouts in New Zealand? It's hardly likely that the film can would be mislabelled, especially if he'd watched it and seen the correct title pop up within 30 seconds! |
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