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Post by Adrian H on Jan 6, 2004 16:57:20 GMT
Hi.
I think there are 5 complete episodes of Series 1-3 still existing. Does anyone know where the existing copies originate from?
Was the show sold to foreign markets?
Thanks. A.
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Post by Insomniac on Jan 7, 2004 0:38:55 GMT
More than five now - a couple have been recovered from off-air recordings. I think Alf's Dilemma was recovered from abroad because it's had bits snipped out.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Jan 7, 2004 15:59:54 GMT
So where did the first ep of Till Death actually come from then?
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Post by Adrian H on Jan 8, 2004 11:03:21 GMT
The reason I am asking. I try to follow a lead on some Series 1-3 epsiodes that appeared on the continent in the 1970ies. There is reason to believe that these were not returned or destroyed.
Does anyone know if episodes were returned from there?
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Post by Laurence Piper on Jan 8, 2004 13:49:48 GMT
I'd like to know this myself. That's why I was asking where Ep.1 came from. Anyone know?
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Post by Richard Berry on Jan 15, 2004 11:01:11 GMT
At last year's MISSING BELIEVED WIPED we were told that both the first TILL DEATH US DO PART and ADAM ADAMANT: D FOR DESTRUCTION had been found, misfiled, at Windmill Road. That accounts for the noticeably better print quality than the ones recovered after having travelled the world.
And as far as I know there are 8 B/W episodes now recovered; ARGUMENTS ARGUMENTS, HOUSE WITH LOVE IN IT, ALF'S DILEMMA (missing 10 mins), PEACE AND GOODWILL, TILL CLOSING TIME DO US PART, BLOOD DONOR, AUNT MAUD, THE PHONE. There's also a lengthy (and very funny) clip from INTOLERANCE, and the majority of the even better UP THE POLLS from 1970. I think P&G was returned by David Wyatt, and MAUD, PHONE and POLLS were restored from ancient domestic video recordings. Other than that they're all film prints, except for TILL CLOSING TIME which is on glorious VT.
But does anyone know the official status of the original COMEDY PLAYHOUSE? I've seen at least two separate clips from it, but nowhere could I find whether these are from surviving extracts or a complete episode.
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Post by Jon on Jan 15, 2004 11:42:53 GMT
That's not actually true. The Adam Adamant was indeed found at Windmill Road but the first Till Death... came from a private collector.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Jan 15, 2004 18:50:04 GMT
Richard, I believe the clips from the Comedy Playhouse pilot (all that are known to survive) come from a documentary on Johnny Speight made in the '70s which used them
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Post by Richard Berry on Jan 16, 2004 11:01:09 GMT
Ah, that would explain why there are fragments which appear in documentaries and on such odd things as Gretchen Franklin's THIS IS YOUR LIFE. Thanks.
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Post by Jim Schwartau on Jan 16, 2004 23:29:03 GMT
Richard, I believe the clips from the Comedy Playhouse pilot (all that are known to survive) come from a documentary on Johnny Speight made in the '70s which used them All of the currently extant clips (that I know of) of the "Til Death" "Comedy Playhouse" come from the "Line-Up Review" of 7 January 1966, a debate on the subject of comedy. Johnny Speight was interviewed, and a clip of the recently-aired "Comedy Playhouse" was shown, with Gretchen Franklin in the role of Else Ramsey (not Garnett). Also present was Marty Feldman, who seems to spend every opportunity in winding up Speight. A heated debate. This is where my memory gets hazy, it being years since I last saw the programme (which exists in full on 16mm film) - also present are (I seem to recall) the writer of "Marriage Lines" (one of the Warings?). The programme is also the source of the famous clip of an uninvited John Antrobus being ejected from the studio. Denis Tuohy presided. The 70s documentary re-used the clips from this source. Hope this helps, Jim S.
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Post by Ricardo01 on Jan 17, 2004 4:34:25 GMT
I'm sure that it was shown briefly in the Toronto area , possibly on City-TV, an independent station, in the early 70's. It was promoted as the inspiration for "All in the Family" as I recall and I'm positive that I saw at least one episode. I did a search through the digitized Toronto Star archives for a mention of it without any success. Any Canadians have any memory of it? Kind of think that the program might have had limited sales abroad. As a side note, I also remember seeing Dr. Who in the mid-60's on CBC's kid's program "Magic Shadows" which was hosted by Elwy Yost, a long time Canadian presenter.
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