definitive pre-1976 TOTP surviving list?

[Adam James Smith]

Has anyone compiled a list of what is known to exist of pre-1976 TOTP,(as opposed to what is still in the BBC archive).
Since there is SO MUCH material that exists outside of the archive (and which they have little interest in getting back) it would be very interesting to see what we can compile. Anyone want to give it a bash? I'd include audios and tiny clips like Kev's recent discovery as well!

[cosmic bunny]

i have a complete database of what exista in and out of the BBC

including audio stuff, i post the stuff at intervals at poptastic

[peter kennedy]

do any of the surviving top of the pops outside of the bbc contain any Olivia newton-john ?
the country roads clip from 1973 and the Sam clip from 1977
there is lots of her songs missing between 71-77
everything after 77 is still there at the bbc
a friend whop worked at the BBC went into the archives
and pulled the country roads clip of the original master
but he told me the sound was messed up 'so it seams the bbc still had the audio backing tracks too as they were able to fix it and use it on totp2

[cosmic bunny]

the country roads is from 01/02/73

and exists in b/w


apart from that nothing exists up to 77's sam

[Adam James Smith]

Hey, cosmic bunny, what is poptastic and where can I see the list?

[peter kennedy]

was there a top of the pops radio show in the early 70s or did they do the audio backing then not use songs?
i ask this because i have some bootleg cd fromt he bbc
and it has ONJ doing let me be there and it says welcome to totps then says olvia singing let me be there,
its kinda odd' but there is no listing of her ever singing that song on the tv show?

[the cosmic one]

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[Adam James Smith]

I'm afriad I can't see your post at poptastic, sicne they won't allow new members. Any chance you could re-post it here?

[cosmic one]

try it again

[Larry Dutch]

Guest-peter said:

was there a top of the pops radio show in the early 70s or did they do the audio backing then not use songs?
i ask this because i have some bootleg cd fromt he bbc
and it has ONJ doing let me be there and it says welcome to totps then says olvia singing let me be there,
its kinda odd' but there is no listing of her ever singing that song on the tv show?

Hi Peter,
To the best of my knowledge, 'Top Of The Pops' radio programs were radio broadcasts put together by the BBC and often voiced over by Brian Matthew. These programs were made for overseas (read 'Commonwealth countries') use and were never intended for British transmission. As such, the songs would be sourced from existing BBC radio programs such as Saturday Club, Top Gear, Easybeat etc (hence the recordings often being different to the released records). These then would be pressed onto vinyl (known as Transcription Discs) and sent out of The British Isles. Though the title of this long running series is the same as the TV show, the music on the transcription discs have no relation to the music screened on the TV series.

ONJ would therefore have recorded some exclusive versions of her songs for a BBC radio program like one of the ones I have mentioned above and one or two of these would have then ended up being used in the TOTP radio series. That is the reason Kaleidoscope/Fairfield Parlour have been able to release a BBC sessions CD as some of these transcription discs have survived. In fact, most of the original programs which were used to create these TOTP radio shows were not archived meaning that the transcription discs which survive are in many cases all that is left of these shows.
Cheers
LD

[peter kennedy]

thanks LD
you got it right it is brian mathew doing the voice over and interview with olvia.but on the bbc disc she also does a cover of And i love you so and that seams to be off the sez lez tv show with no intro .
so go figure haha.

take care peter

[John Miller]

Guest-peter said:

do any of the surviving top of the pops outside of the bbc contain any Olivia newton-john ?
the country roads clip from 1973 and the Sam clip from 1977
there is lots of her songs missing between 71-77
everything after 77 is still there at the bbc
a friend whop worked at the BBC went into the archives
and pulled the country roads clip of the original master
but he told me the sound was messed up 'so it seams the bbc still had the audio backing tracks too as they were able to fix it and use it on totp2

Re: I believe Olivia Newton John appeared as regular guest
on 'Its cliff' in the 1973 series all of which I think exist. Some of her hits may be represented there. She also appears in the 1972 BBC 'Its Cliff' European special, which
exists. theres also an official British promo for 'If not for you' shown on 'Before they were famous'.

[John Stewart Miller]

Guest-Adam said:

Has anyone compiled a list of what is known to exist of pre-1976 TOTP,(as opposed to what is still in the BBC archive).
Since there is SO MUCH material that exists outside of the archive (and which they have little interest in getting back) it would be very interesting to see what we can compile. Anyone want to give it a bash? I'd include audios and tiny clips like Kev's recent discovery as well!

P.S. the current John Miller (name posted by accident a few minutes ago by me) is me, but due to another 'me' I'm he of the name above (sorry, confusing - 'I am the Walrus!..')

I've a fair idea, but haven't compiled a definitive list. It should be worth adding, some of these may now exist at the BBC, hopefully all will at some point.

1966 - Kinks (Sunny afternoon)
Walker Bros (Baby you don't have to tell me)
Manfred Mann (Semi detatched surburban Mr James)

1967 - Hendrix (Purple Haze)
(Wind cries Mary - mute)
Manfred Mann (Ha ha said the clown)
Kinks (Autumn Almanac)

Keith Badman (Record collector) was rumoured to have found 'Jennifer Juniper' (Donovan) & Kinks 'Wonderboy' 1968 in an overseas archive.

Yardbirds documentary early 90s showed a fleeting
super 8mm clip of an unidentified performance by them on TOTP (66 - 67). (Yardbirds the most blueswailing band).

1970s - Won't list as I can't recall offhand, numerous clips used by ZDF on 'Disco' (I'll go back on this later).

1970 - Who (The seeker)

Keith Badman rumour - Cliff Richard (Goodbye Sam, Hello Samantha)

1973 - Who (5.15)
Nazareth (Bad bad boy) B/W
Suzi Quatro (48 crash) B/W

1974 - Mud (Tiger feet, in red costumes)
Ronnie Lane (How come?)
Jonathan King (Satisfaction)
Sweet (Teenage Rampage - 2 performances)
Queen (Seven seas of Rhye)
10cc (Silly Love)
Cozy Powell (Na na na & Man in Black) Alvin Stardust (You, you, you)
Gary Glitter (Always yours).

Will update this when I can. cheers.

[Peter kennedy]

hello john
unfortunitly none of the Its cliff episodes exsist featuring Olivia her first being december 1970 her last being end of 72 series.but the 2 tv speciasl called geteway with cliff 1971 and The Case 1972 do survive.

Of TOTP only country roads and sam and Little more love exsist that i know of.
The if not for you clip i from germany 1971 and banks of the ohio from germany 1972
lots of olvias shows from the 70s are misisng her 2 tv specials called wandering minstrel show & fairweather friends as is her moods of love series from 74.ive been able to get alot of tv stuff from the 70s including all the bbc stuff' but there is some that is now lost completey.
id love to get into the archives to get some les dawson shows .

thanks peter