Hawkwind

[Ian Abrahams]

Guest-Pete said:

i have the incomplete version on VT:

TOP OF THE POPS 22/06/72 (Incomplete, from BBC Scotland)
Introduced by Ed Stewart (start clipped)

>>Sweet - Little willy (Disc)
>>Gary Glitter - Rock and roll part 2 (Studio)

launches two thirds into this song....

Elvis Presley - American trilogy (Caravel film)
Argent - Tragedy (Studio)
Free - Little bit of love (Disc/Pans People)
New Seekers - Circles (Studio)
Dana - Crossword puzzles (Studio)
Move - California man (Studio)
Don MacLean - Vincent (Promo)
B Bumble & The Stingers - Nut rocker (Disc/Crowd/Credits)

(Credits) >> Top of the pops, Introduced this week by Ed Stewart,
Top thirty specially prepared for the BBC and Record Mirror by The British Market Research Bureau, Top Of The Pops Orchestra Directed by Johnny Pearson,
Vocal Backing by The Ladybirds, Musical Associate - Derek Warne,
Pan’s People Choreography by Flick Colby, Costume - Hazel Pethig,
Elvis Presley Film Directed by Tom Taylor, Edited by Caravel Films,
Still Photographer - Harry Goodwin, Sound - Richard Chamberlain,
Lighting - Ron Koplick, Design - David Chandler,
Produced by Johnnie Stewart,

Ah, thats interesting - Tom Taylor, Caravel Films noted as directing the Presley clip. Presumably this is the source of the Hawkwind film as well?

[Laurence Piper]

Yes, Tom Taylor's name appears a lot on the TOTP paperwork (as do other names). I suspect it's maybe a moonlighting BBC cameraman or something. Possibly he set up Caravel Films specifically to produce this kind of material to order.

[Alan a Dale]

That Hawkwind film was on top of the pops week after week. I remenber that one well. Those films must have run into the hundreds as there was at least one each week.

[Pete Seaton]

a few more to absorb :

TOP OF THE POPS 26/02/70 (Full edition exists, b/w)
Introduced by Jimmy Savile
Edison Lighthouse - Love grows (Charts)
White Plains - My baby loves lovin’ (Studio)
Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Something’s burning (Studio)
Pickettywitch - Same old feeling (Studio)
Steam - Na na hey hey kiss him goodbye (Film/Studio)
Dave Dee - My woman’s man (Studio)
Shocking Blue - Venus (Crowd)
Steve & Albert - Follow the bouncing ball (Studio)
Mary Hopkin - Temma harbour (Film/Pan’s people)
Jackson Five - I wan’t you back (Film)
Malcolm Roberts - We can make it girl (Studio)
Cuff Links - Tracy (Studio)
Dave Clark Five - Everybody get together (Studio) Rpt
Edison Lighthouse - Love grows (Disc/Crowd/Credits)
(Credits) >> Introduced this week by Jimmy Savile, Featured discs by The Cuff Links, The Dave Clark Five, Dave Dee, Edison Lighthouse, Mary Hopkin, The Jackson 5, Pickettywitch, Malcolm Roberts, Kenny Rogers & The First Edition, Shocking Blue, Steam, Steve & Albert, White Plains,
‘Top Thirty” specially prepared for the BBC and Record Mirror by the British Market Research Bureau,
Top Of The Pops Orchestra Directed by Johnny Pearson,
Vocal Backing by The Ladybirds,Pan’s People Choreography by Flick Colby,
Musical Associate - Derek Warne,
The Jackson 5 Film Directed by Tom Taylor, Edited by Caravel Films,
Steam Film Directed by Brian Whitehouse,
Film Cameraman - peter Cleaver, Film Editor - David Spence,
Videograms by Oliver Pemsel, Stills Photographer - Harry Goodwin,
Sound - Richard Chamberlain, Lighting - Bert Postlethwaite,
Design - Lesley Bremness, Produced by Mel Cornish/Stanley Dorfman

TOP OF THE POPS 29/04/71 (Full edition exists)
Introduced by Tony Blackburn
McGuinness Flint - Malt and barley blues (Studio)
R Dean Taylor - Indiana wants me (Film)
Mixtures - Henry Ford (Studio/Film)
Jackson Five - Mama’s pearl (Disc/Pan’s People)
Shirley Bassey - Breakfast in bed (Studio)
Shirley Bassey - You don’t care no more (Studio)
Ringo Starr - It don’t come easy (Film)
Lulu - Everybody clap (Studio)
Sakkarin - Sugar sugar (Crowd/Charts)
Faces - Richmond (Studio)
Rod Stewart - Bad and ruin (Studio)
Dave & Ansil Collins - Double Barrell (Studio)
East Of Eden - Jig a jig (Disc/Crowd/Credits)
(Credits) >> Introduced this week by Tony Blackburn, ‘Top Thirty” specially prepared for the BBC and Record Mirror by the British Market Research Bureau,
Top Of The Pops Orchestra Directed by Johnny Pearson,
Vocal Backing by The Ladybirds, Musical Associate - Derek Warne,
Pan’s People Choreography by Flick Colby, Costume - Jane Nagy,
Ringo Starr Film by Michael Hurll, Edited by David Spence,
R Dean Taylor Film Directed by Tom Taylor, Edited by Caravel Films,
Stills Photographer - Harry Goodwin, Graphics - Bob Blagden,
Sound - Richard Chamberlain, Lighting - Alan Horne
Production Assistant - Stanley Appel,,Design - Anna Ridley,
Produced by Mel Cornish, Directed by Vernon Lawrence,

TOP OF THE POPS Christmas 1972 Part 2 28/12/72 (Full edition exists)
Introduced by Noel Edmonds & Tony Blackburn (ep460) +++
(credits exist as inferior Real Audio, launches into Gary Glitter.....
Gary Glitter - Rock and roll part 1 (Studio) as on glam video
Donny Osmond - Puppy love (Promo) Rpt
Alice Cooper - Schools out (Studio) Rpt as on glam video
Lieutenant Pigeon - Mouldy old dough (Studio)
Roberta Flack - The first time ever I saw your face (Studio) Rpt
Slade - Mama weer all crazee now (Studio)
Benny Hill - Ernie (The fastest milkman in the west) (Film) Rpt
Chicory Tip - Son of my father (Studio) Rpt (feat on ATWF6)
Nilsson - Without you (Cherry intro/Studio/Pans people)
Osmonds - Crazy horses (Studio) Rpt
Chuck Berry - My ding a ling (Studio/Rolf)
Michael Jackson - Rockin robin (Studio)
T.Rex - Metal guru (Studio) (also on on video Video Biography vol 1)
Ringo Starr - Back off boogaloo (Disc/Crowd/Credits)
(Credits) >> Top of the pops 72,
Introduced by Tony Blackburn and Noel Edmonds,
Top Of The Pops Orchestra Directed by Johnny Pearson,
Musical Associate - Derek Warne, Vocal Backing by The Ladybirds,
Benny Hill Film Directed by Tom Taylor, Chuck Berry Cartoons by Rolf Harris,
Pan’s People Choreography by Flick Colby, Costume - Jane Nagy
Stills Photographer - Harry Goodwin, Graphics - Bob Blagden,
Lighting - Bert Postlethwaite, Sound - Richard Chamberlain,
Design - Ian Rawnsley, Produced by Johnnie Stewart,

[Neil Barker]

The song the Cuff-Links performed on 26/2/70 was actually "When Julie Comes Around".

[ASM]

Dear Pete
Great! those TOTP line ups! Really liked the 22/6/72 one - many thanks for providing that one. Pete do you know what exists on the Two from early 1971 which UK Gold wouldn't screen for that reason? Dates 13th Jan and 26th Feb 71 (I Think!) I'd love to know what exists from those two. Alan Smith.

[Laurence Piper]

Those TOTP are as follows:

14/1/71 (some tracks mute):
DJ - Jimmy Saville
John Paul Joans - Man From Nazareth (studio)
Lulu - Got To Believe In Love (studio)
Tom Jones - She's A Lady (studio)
Badfinger - Better Days (studio)
Badfinger - Believe Me (studio)
Badfinger - No Matter What (studio)
Elton John - Your Song (VT)
Frank Sinatra - My Way (VT)
Clive Dunn - Grandad (VT)
Judy Collins - Amazing Grace (film)
The Mixtures - The Push Bike Song (disc)
The Carpenters - We've Only Just Begun (disc)

25/2/71:
DJ - Jimmy Saville
Ray Stevens - Can't We Get To That (studio)
Atomic Rooster - Tomorrow Night (studio)
The Show Stoppers - Ain't Nothin' Like A House Party (studio)
The Four Seasons - Let's Hang On (studio)
The Four Seasons - I've Got You Under My Skin (studio)
The Four Seasons - Sherry / Walk Like A Man / Big Girls Don't Cry / Bye Bye Baby 9studio)
Dana - Who Put The Lights Out (VT)
The Mixtures - The Push Bike Song (VT)
Perry Como - It's Impossible (film)
Lynn Anderson - Rose Garden (film)
Chairman Of The Board - Everything's Tuesday (disc - Pan's People)
Paul McCartney - Another Day (disc)
George Harrison - My Sweet Lord (disc)

[Neil Barker]

So "Tomorrow Night" definitely exists then? Excellent news!

[Laurence Piper]

Well, according to Kal it does, yes. The details were taken from the BBC P as Bs though. Is there any evidence to suggest it's not a whole show? If not, maybe that was the reason why it wasn't repeated by UK Gold? Anyone know any more on this?

[Mark Kerridge]

Does anyone know what tracks are mute on the 14/1/71 edition? Are the DJ links mute as well? Laurence, I take it that that is not the exact running order.

As far as I remember, only the following performances from 14/1/71 have been shown on TOTP2:

• Tom Jones - She's A Lady
  
• Badfinger - No Matter What
  
• Elton John - Your Song
  
• Frank Sinatra - My Way
  
• Clive Dunn - Grandad
  
• Pans People/The Carpenters - We've Only Just Begun
  

Tom Jones, Badfinger, Frank Sinatra and Elton John were all shown as part of the "Recorded for Recall" Slot years ago in which a number of tracks from the same edition were shown one after another.

No sign of any of the others as yet!

As for 25/2/71:

[/li][li]The Four Seasons - all or some of those songs
[/li][li]Mixtures - Pushbike Song
[/li][li]Pans People/Chairmen of The Board - Everything's Tuesday
[/li][li]Crowd dancing/Paul McCartney - Another Day
[/list]

Does this edition exist as an unedited studio tape?

The Pans People performance has not as yet been shown in full, although there was a clip featured on Digging The Dancing Queens.

I have seen a clip of the Paul McCartney track somewhere with the correct soundtrack (can't recall where) but wasn't this also the performance for which "Sugar Sugar" was dubbed over and naughtily presented on TOTP2 as a 1969 performance?

[pete]

what is the technical term for a tape which actually isn't the complete show but the technicians tape (which some have been traded around)

eg Tom Jones - Shes a lady (1971) + other stuff like four seasons

also another with technicians spooling (winding) on the recording, cuing stuff up, which was videoed like that

is this a rough edit ?

[Laurence Piper]

The running orders I gave were as listed on the P as Bs, not necessarily the show running sequence (it would need the camera script or similar to determine this).

Taking a guess, i'd say that the "live" tracks from 14/1/71 are the ones that have sound. Possibly some (or all?) of the pre-recorded items are mute. If so, then it would be a matter of re-dubbing the sound of the records onto the performances (which is possibly how they were shown on TOTP2). Items like the Sinatra clip probably exist in the show they originally came from though and so can be sourced from there.

As far as I know, 25/2/71 is an actual edition , not a studio session tape.

All questions on content of TOTP editions from 1964 onwards can be answered by accessing the TOTP database (on the TOTP website) - I put quite a bit of the info there myself for everyone to make use of...

[Gary C]

Laurence, I always thought thought that PasB's were exactly that; Programme As Broadcast???

[ASM]

Pete Seaton very kindly mailed me the full line up of 14/1/71 & 25/2/71. Some tracks were wiped as T.Rex "Ride A White Swan" would be on the January show if it all existed. It would most definatly have been repeated by now. ASM

[Laurence Piper]

Guest-Gary said:

Laurence, I always thought thought that PasB's were exactly that; Programme As Broadcast???

It's a confusing term as it refers to both the paperwork at written archives (whish is an itemised log of all material transmitted in the show, including titles etc) AND to the actual recording of a "live transmission" made of it as it went out (e.g. a VT made by the BBC of an election broadcast as it was transmitted ias known as a "programme as broadcast"). The P as B paperwork i'm referring to doesn't list the show items in order though. You need other paperwork for that. Very misleading, yes.