BBC Returns 1964-77

[Pete Seaton]

I really cannot see why someone would really want to sit on an on old edition of TOTP (1966 or otherwise)

the BBC are never gonna pay the demands over the odds for something which is theirs in the first place

and to hold on to something like that is purely selfish.

the best bet is to return it to the BBC, who will provide a video/DVD copy of it after it is preserved. after all it's probably gonna deteriorate, and thus deem it unplayable and no good to nobody.........

please whoever you are please return them to the BBC

[William Martin]

its difficult to know why someone would
you've met the type before
the kid at school who wouldn't share his colour crayons(you know the ones who sharpened the ends in a pencil sharpener and said you could borrow them but only if you didn't wear down the point, which is impossible) they grow up to be the sort of people who hoard episodes.
rare is special
common isn't if they share they become worthless
and I don't think that there is a price that they would be willing to accept
they only give it up if they are descovered or are in danger of loosing credibility amongst their clique(and the episode would restore them to favor) or would recieve something even rarer and more desireable in return.
getting material from people like this is like a UN negotiation
I have done it before and these people are almost impossible to deal with they won't share their toys
but not all are like this some don't wan't it to fall into the "wrong hands" do not want it to be swapped or traded and some are afraid of getting into trouble despite the bbc amnesty
and others don't want to be pestered by people like me, so anonymaty is vital and also total trust in the person confided in or the in-between
luckily i don't think that many are in the hands of these people
most are lying at the back of lofts, store rooms etc with their ownwers ignorant of their value
the end result is that we can't see them and we want to

[Birt]

You have to look at it another way. Room storage in central London in the 1980s was something like £25 per square foot rent a week. Based on these figures it would be cheaper for an archive to chuck out its unused material than store it. People who have collected these items from rubbish skips whatever, have stored these items (albeit not in the best of conditions) but they have kept it .
So dont you think they deserve just a little bit of respect
by organisations such as the BBC? Ok blah blah blah they dont own the copyright, but then again what use is a copyright without the print?
Everybody loves money and a proper reward system might see a lot of stuff returned?It is used in every other industry why should TV be elitist?
After all if someone is sitting on a tape/print why should he bother giving it away? he has seen it , who cares about anybody else, they dont keep you when your
on your uppers and starving.
Apart from that, a masonic industry already operates amongst tv collectors, they dont share their finds with anybody else only themselves. Peter once you find the secret handshake all this tuff will be open to you.

[ASM]

As far as i've learned both 1966 TOTP are now in the USA and certainly the one featuring The Beatles will not be easy or at a low cost to access.
ASM

[Richard Hunter]

So do we know how much it would cost to persuade this person to show us what he's got?? Where only talking about taking a copy of his master tape aren't we??

Also how true is this rumour?? Does anybody know where this person resides in the States??

Apologies if I'm a bit cynical it just seems hard to believe that something this important has remained hidden for so long.

[William Martin]

both the 1966? what are the dates?
I know the date of the one with the two beatles clips but If the other has been mentioned before i must have missied it what is the date

as for the 16/6/66 perhaps the collector may let us have a copy with the beatles edited out, not perfect but better than nothing and it would be cheaper

as for mr hunter yes you'r right to be cynical but things can and do lay hidden for decades if the collector keeps their mouth shut or simply not asked then who's to know, however keep you'r cynisism healthy its a very useful trait

[ASM]

My data comes from Keith Badman who desperatly tried to get hold of both editions. Sadly they went overseas to the USA according to keith. ASM

[William Martin]

what was the tx date of the other, and was there any special reason why these survive other than the beatles connection? not all beatles performances were recorded