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Post by Laurence Piper on Jul 30, 2003 11:41:46 GMT
Any corrections are most welcome, Mark - I ASKED for 'em after all. Keep them coming. It's just so damned time-consuming but I am determined that it will all be done eventually as I want the database to be something people can rely on for accuracy. I am concentrating on correcting as much as I can over the next couple of days but won't have another chance after that for a while, so get 'em in quick!
Some of the errors I have already sorted. The 31/12/70 show had no presenter, by the way (a new year special subtitled Pop Into '71 - not the regular format).
Although Kal lists Sept '76 as the point where TOTP becomes complete, there seem to be a few more missing after that.
As far as dates are concerned, if there is no edition at all for a particular date then (with exceptions - see below) assume that is because no edition was transmitted there, for whatever reason. 30/12/76 seems to be one such instance as there is no P as B for this date.
In the first 13 years of the show, I only have encountered 4 dates that can't be accounted for on any documentation (discounting dates when TOTP was definitely cancelled due to sport, strikes etc). Those 4 are 12/4/73 (possibly also cancelled due to strike but so far i've been unable to confirm this for sure), 20/4/73, 7/9/73 and 12/8/76 (the latter seems just to be missing it's paperwork though). It confuses matters somewhat as when an edition is cancelled, sometimes the numbering carries on next week as if the show went out!
Keep the corrections coming, Mark. They are very helpful. We'll get there in the end...
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Post by Mark Kerridge on Jul 30, 2003 12:03:10 GMT
Cheers Laurence - will do. Pleased to see that 7/7/77 is now in its rightful place - bearing in mind that I only mentioned it a few hours ago!! Keep up the good work...  |
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Post by Laurence Piper on Jul 30, 2003 14:15:10 GMT
Yes, it's like searching for a needle in a haystack, unless you know the specific error you're looking for.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Jul 30, 2003 20:18:31 GMT
Just a few other points about the database, in case anyone wondered...
Due to a hiccup in the system, editions inserted recently are not falling into chronological sequence (which they should be!) So for the moment they will stay that way - iI am reliably informed it's a lot of effort for anyone to sort it quickly. At least the editions are there to access.
I am correcting all the different periods of the show now so any errors spotted from whatever year are welcome. Some more recent shows are missing information too and this is slowly being corrected.
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Post by Mark Kerridge on Jul 30, 2003 21:06:35 GMT
Here's some more: - 22/4/71 Free "My Brother Jake" (misspell)
- 29/4/71 Jackson Five/Pan's People "Mama's Pearl" (duplicated)
- 6/5/71 Severine "Un Banc, un Arbre, une Rue" (song title incorrect - this is the 1971 Eurovision Winner!)
- 13/5/71 Delfonics misspell also on 12/8/71
- 17/6/71 Tami Lynn "I'm Gonna Run Away From You" (duplicated)
- 1/7/71 Medicine Head (misspell)
- 15/7/71 The Who "Won't You Be My Lady" entry included as well as correct "Won't Get Fooled Again"
- 21/10/71 Slade "Coz I Luv You" misspelt song title (!!) also on 28/10, 4/11, 11/11, 18/11, 25/11, 2/12 and duplicated on 27/12; one entry of song title correct
- 16/12/71 duplication of entries
- 27/12/71 duplication of entries
- 27/4/72 Elton John "Rocket Man" (misspell)
- 22/6/72 Free "Little Bit of Love" (this has previously been documented as a Pan's People performance by those who have seen this edition)
Gary Glitter entry duplicated
- 21/9/72 Gary Glitter entry duplicated
- 16/11/72 Slade "Gudbuy T'Jane" (duplicated)
- 28/12/72 Alice Cooper & Michael Jackson entries duplicated. Also, for Gary Glitter, Rock & Roll Part 1 also listed. Wasn't just Part 2 performed (1st track, clip on TOTP2 site)?
As regards 29/4/71, were the 2 Shirley Bassey songs definitely frrom this edition, as the tape I have of the first UK Gold TX didn't have them? Were they edited out? Regards, Mark |
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Post by kristoff on Jul 30, 2003 21:46:03 GMT
Excellant work Laurence but where are the following?
10.02.77
03.03.77
31.03.77
04.08.77
08.09.77, presuming TOTP was broadcast on these dates? if u have info it would b greatly apreciated!
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Post by Mark Kerridge on Jul 30, 2003 22:03:32 GMT
A few more... - 29/6/73 Dave Edmunds "Born To Be With You" (typo)
- 3/8/73 Roy Wood "Dear Elaine" (typo)
- 17/8/73 Bobby Goldsboro "Summer (The First Time)" (title incorrect)
- 4/10/73 Bryan Ferry "A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall" (artist/song title misspell)
- 11/10/73 Michael Ward entry duplicated
- 18/10/73 ditto 4/10/73
- 29/11/73 no presenter listed
- 20/12/73 duplication of entries
- 25/12/73 duplication of entries
- 27/12/73 duplication of entries
- 11/4/74 Wombles entry duplicated
- 18/4/74 Limmie & The Family Cookin' entry duplicated
- 2/5/74 duplication of entries
- 8/8/74 Paul Da Vinci entry duplicated
- 4/10/74 Adam Faith entry listed as "unknown" as well as the correct title "I Survived". Also, Paul Anka entry duplicated
- 14/11/74 Chi-Lites (title not listed but likely to be Too Good To Be Forgotten)
- 21/11/74 Lulu "Man With The Golden Gun" song title listed as "Arm"
- 25/12/74 Mud & Slade entries duplicated
- 27/12/74 Weren't the presenters just DLT & Noel?
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Post by Mark Kerridge on Jul 31, 2003 21:22:43 GMT
More: - 27/2/69 Cliff Richard, Glen Campbell & Hollies entries duplicated
- 10/4/69 The Who "Pinball Wizard" (song title typo)
- 17/4/69 Ditto The Who
- 24/4/69 Ditto The Who
- 1/5/69 Isley Brothers "Behind A Painted Smile" (song title incorrect)
- 8/5/69 Ditto The Who
- 3/7/69 Desmond Dekker "It Miek" (song title incorrect)
- 10/7/69 Ditto Desmond Dekker
- 15/10/70 Jimmy Ruffin & Carpenters/Pans People entries duplicated
- 2/1/75 Mud & Tymes entries duplicated
- 9/1/75 no presenter listed
- 13/3/75 Dana entry duplicated
- 20/3/75 Cliff Richard, Guys & Dolls and Mike Reid entries duplicated
Also, Ed mentioned that the 8/9/77 episode is the most recent episode broadcast which no longer exists. Will the details of this show be available shortly, presuming the documentation is to hand? Best, Mark |
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Post by Mark Kerridge on Aug 1, 2003 11:39:45 GMT
Hi Laurence, A few more... - 15/2/68 DDDBMT "The Legend of Xanadu" (recorded 3 times); Manfred Mann (duplicated)
- 7/3/68 Tom Jones "Delilah" (duplicated, although one entry marked as extract; also is 4 presenters correct for this edition?)
- 6/6/68 Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger & The Trinity "This Wheel's On Fire" (entry duplicated)
- 24/10/68 4 presenters?
These may be too late, but I am sure can be held over until when you get another chance. Thanks for all your efforts on this, and for all the fine-tuning. Regards, Mark |
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Post by Laurence Piper on Aug 1, 2003 13:33:47 GMT
Thanks for all the corrections. I'll keep 'em to hand for when I get a chance to sort it all. There seems to be a bug which has caused a lot of the entires to be duplicated all over the place! There are simply too many to go back to the original files to check today (sometimes one entry says "performance" and the other says "repeat", so it's generally impossible to guess at which needs to be deleted!)
Anyway, keep posting the amendments here as you find them and i'll gather them all...
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Post by Chris Patient on Aug 1, 2003 15:11:59 GMT
I haven't noticed these ones being mentioned before, but...
On 17.06.1971 both The Sweet & Sweet are said to have performed "Co-Co". The Sweet's performance of 24.07.1974 is said to be "Piece Of The Action" which should just be "Action", & there is a The Sweet/Sweet issue for "Fox On The Run" on 23.12.1975.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Chris.
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Post by William Martin on Aug 6, 2003 15:54:54 GMT
Its a bit like painting the house all anyone says is "you missed a bit" any way we do all apreciate the DataBase and it is virtualy impossible to do something of this size without some errors.The fact that people can pick out individual omissions means that it is easy to read and understand. |
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Post by mark on Aug 9, 2003 9:36:04 GMT
Was the 9/1/1969 edition ever broadcasted or no information on the show is available on the database?
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Post by Laurence Piper on Aug 10, 2003 9:30:50 GMT
Yes. there was a TOTP show broadcast on 9/1/69. If it's not there then it's a database problem. It will be corrected in due course.
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Post by marky on Sept 6, 2003 8:58:44 GMT
I have just discovered that the 9.1.1969 edition of totp is listed in the database as 9.9.1969.
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