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Post by Greg H on Apr 14, 2008 14:16:05 GMT
recently ive been watching a few of the different television adaptations of Holmes's adventures, from Cushing to Baker to Brett and more. I was just wondering if anyone here knew what the earliest screen adaptations of Holmes were on BBC. It seems likely to me they will be lost, so I thought i'd ask here  [glow=red,2,300]Cheers![/glow] |
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Post by Robert Manners on Apr 14, 2008 15:05:32 GMT
Yes its the below series of episodes
Sherlock Holmes BBC 1965 (Douglas Wilmer)
Season 1, Episode 0: The Speckled Band
Original Air Date: 18 May 1964
Season 1, Episode 1: The Illustrious Client Original Air Date: 20 February 1965
Season 1, Episode 2: The Devil's Foot Original Air Date: 27 February 1965
Season 1, Episode 3: The Copper Beeches Original Air Date: 6 March 1965
Season 1, Episode 4: The Red-Headed League Original Air Date: 13 March 1965
Season 1, Episode 5: The Abbey Grange Original Air Date: 20 March 1965 ~ missing the first reel
Season 1, Episode 6: The Six Napoleons Original Air Date: 27 March 1965
Season 1, Episode 7: The Man with the Twisted Lip Original Air Date: 3 April 1965
Season 1, Episode 8: The Beryl Coronet Original Air Date: 10 April 1965
Season 1, Episode 9: The Bruce-Partington Plans Original Air Date: 17 April 1965 ~ missing the second reel
Season 1, Episode 10: Charles Augustus Milverton Original Air Date: 24 April 1965
Season 1, Episode 11: The Retired Colourman Original Air Date: 1 May 1965
Season 1, Episode 12: The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax Original Air Date: 8 May 1965
Two episodes of the Douglas Wilmer series in the BBC archives are incomplete - "The Abbey Grange" is missing the first reel of two, "The Bruce-Partington Plans" is missing the second reel of two. Technically "The Speckled Band" is incomplete, in that it was first transmitted in "Detective" and all episodes of that series (its first series) had an introduction by Rupert Davies (as Maigret) - the version that exists of "Speckled Band" has the "Sherlock Holmes" series titles and is minus the intro.
Hope this is of help to you ~ Robert
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Post by William Martin on Apr 14, 2008 16:25:22 GMT
the earliest british adaptation was a half-hour filmed version of The Man with the Twisted Lip, starring John Longden as Holmes and Campbell Singer as watson( made by van dyke pictures) bbc March 1951. The Mazarin Stone, with Andrew Osborn as Holmes and Philip King as Watson in June 1951 which was live I think (I don't know if either of these exist), and then a series of 6 35 min live programs in 1951 with Alan Wheatley as Holmes and Raymond Francis as Watsonfrom 20 October - 1 December 1951
The Empty House-20 oct
A scandal in Bohemia- 27 oct
The Dying Detective- 3 nov
The reigate Squires- 17 Nov
The Red-Headed League- 24 nov
The Second Stain- 1 dec
there is no visual record of these that I can find
the earliest tv adaptation that I know of was a trial Live broadcast on 27 November 1937 of The Three Garridebs from the stage of New York City's Radio City Music Hall by the American Radio Relay League, this used filmed footage to link scenes
Louis Hector as Holmes and William Podmore as Dr. Watson
I don't know what sort of audience it had perhaps there were a few members of the public with home made sets I can't find any visula record of it although the filmed inserts may exist somewhere, apparently Louis Hector badly fluffed his lines at one point so perhaps a lack of an audience was a good thing; for him at least.
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Post by Greg H on Apr 16, 2008 17:13:03 GMT
Wow! Im suprised the earliest BBC production was only 1951!! I was half suspecting there would be an earlier adaptation. Judging by the date I would be suprised if any at all still existed! Go ahead, shock me someone  All your information is most appreciated. Does anyone have precise info on what is definitely still in the archives? The Wilmer stuff sounds very intriguing. Are there many complete episodes around still? I would love to see some. The 1937 play sounds very intriguing. It definitely would be a miracle if bits lurked somewhere, but I can dream |
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Post by lpmoderator on Apr 17, 2008 9:43:35 GMT
Yes, the Wilmer series comprised (I think - I don't have the details to hand at this moment) 12 or 13 episodes. Only the two mentioned above are incomplete. All the rest exist. There are also six surviving episodes of the 1968 colour version with Stock as Watson and Peter Cushing as Holmes (I think there were 18 of these - sadly not such a high survival rate for this one). These latter six were also released on DVD a few years ago and I saw that a couple of them were still on sale last year.
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Post by Greg H on Apr 17, 2008 12:00:38 GMT
Wow! So the Wilmer series has a high survival rate?!?!? So unusual! So unexpected! What a bonus!!
I feel a request coming on for my favorite bittorent sites.............. Someone must have copies that they want to share!
The Cushing Holmes episodes are great fun, Cushing was a natural for the role!
Cheers for all the info everyone!!! Thanks!
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Post by Robert Manners on Apr 18, 2008 17:52:50 GMT
Wow! So the Wilmer series has a high survival rate?!?!? So unusual! So unexpected! What a bonus!! I feel a request coming on for my favorite bittorent sites.............. Someone must have copies that they want to share! The Cushing Holmes episodes are great fun, Cushing was a natural for the role! Cheers for all the info everyone!!! Thanks! I must need to work on my posting skills as no one seem to spot the refference to the archive status of the Douglas Wilmer series in my top posting  'my favorite bittorent sites', these seem to be mega rare and not often seen. I know of only five episodes that pop up in fandom on a regular basis. An official BBC DVD release would help solve this issue of course  |
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Post by Daniel O'Brien on Apr 18, 2008 19:10:49 GMT
I must need to work on my posting skills as no one seem to spot the refference to the archive status of the Douglas Wilmer series in my top posting 'my favorite bittorent sites', these seem to be mega rare and not often seen. I know of only five episodes that pop up in fandom on a regular basis. An official BBC DVD release would help solve this issue of course There's nothing wrong with your posting skills. Maybe some people skim-read when they get over excited. I would buy a DVD release of the Douglas Wilmer 'Holmes' but I'd be surprised if it happens. Wilmer doesn't have Cushing's fame or cult status, though he did get to play Holmes in drag. |
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Post by Robert Manners on Apr 19, 2008 0:23:26 GMT
I must need to work on my posting skills as no one seem to spot the refference to the archive status of the Douglas Wilmer series in my top posting 'my favorite bittorent sites', these seem to be mega rare and not often seen. I know of only five episodes that pop up in fandom on a regular basis. An official BBC DVD release would help solve this issue of course There's nothing wrong with your posting skills. Maybe some people skim-read when they get over excited. I would buy a DVD release of the Douglas Wilmer 'Holmes' but I'd be surprised if it happens. Wilmer doesn't have Cushing's fame or cult status, though he did get to play Holmes in drag. I watched two episodes of Douglas Wilmer 'Sherlock Holmes' tonight on the projector in the big front room. They were Episode 4: The Red-Headed League and Episode 7: The Man with the Twisted Lip. With the sound set up correctly you get a wonderful viewing experience  |
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Post by Andy Howells on Apr 21, 2008 14:26:20 GMT
Perhaps a suggestion to BBCFour might be in order - don't think theyve done a Sherlock Holmes season yet!
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Post by William Martin on Apr 28, 2008 18:23:25 GMT
they've done a mini seasonette thing-ish but not a proper one no
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