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Post by Laurence Piper on Nov 18, 2003 13:20:55 GMT
P.S. Just wanted to say thanks to Anthony for discovering this episode and making efforts to return it. Keep us posted on it's movements?
Excellent news!
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Post by Mark Brown on Nov 18, 2003 14:56:55 GMT
(I believe that the listing came from the Peter Cook Appreciation Society - a fine association, incidentally - and, originally, from notes by comedy author/analyst Roger Wilmut). Hope this helps, William from NZ The list was compiled with help from all over the place just after the Australian episode was discovered (well, returned) and i was suddenly taken with a desire to do a bit work for a change.
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Post by Adam James Smith on Nov 18, 2003 15:27:32 GMT
On the subject, I note that most of the 06/03/65 edition appears to exist as "mute film sequences"..it looks like more than half the episode, from the brief description. I bet you that soemwhere, there is an off-air soundtrack of most of the NOBA episodes..it's a real shame that these can't be tracked down in the same way the DR Who ones were..then re-combined with the mute film. Is any off-air audio Pete and Dud known to exist?
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Post by Lauremce Piper on Nov 18, 2003 20:54:09 GMT
Yes, i'm betting someone somewhere has at least some of the audios. Much of the material is quite verbal and this would be a factor surely.
I'm hoping for a few of the colour series to surface, if just to represent the show more overall. Strange really that Cook and Moore were quite well-known names by the time of the third series yet all the recovered episodes are from the earlier series. One of those strange flukes!
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Post by Ian on Nov 18, 2003 22:15:39 GMT
Were the earlier series distributed more widely or not? Maybe this would explain this. From the BBC's point of view though it would have made more sense (if they were going to get rid of anything at all) to junk the 'old black and whites' rather than the brand new all-colour series of NOBA.
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Post by Adam James Smith on Nov 19, 2003 0:19:32 GMT
I believe that this discovery marks the first time a NOBA episode has been "recovered"..as far as I'm aware, the other Season One episodes only exist because someone (can't recall who) bootlegged them before they were junked. And the two Season Two episodes survive because of a short-lived "junk everything except the first and last episodes of a series" policy.
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Post by Richard Fitzgerald on Nov 19, 2003 0:57:34 GMT
I bet you that soemwhere, there is an off-air soundtrack of most of the NOBA episodes..
I thought that around the same time as the audio surfaced for the Where Do I Sit episode with Johnny Speight, it was mentioned in Radio Times that off-air soundtracks of NOBA season two had been uncovered. No idea of quality though.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Nov 19, 2003 4:12:58 GMT
I believe the '66 Xmas show with John Lennon was a recovery too (in the '80s - it was reported in a magazine to this effect, although I can't recall which one). Can anyone confirm?
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Post by Darren Giddings on Nov 19, 2003 11:38:21 GMT
A lot of NOBA came out on Decca LPs of course, and I understand that some sketches only survive in that form. Perhaps there are occasions when they could be matched up to mute footage? Or would that be just too serendipitous...?
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Post by Darren Giddings on Nov 19, 2003 11:42:05 GMT
... and perhaps somewhere in the Decca vaults are the audio tapes of complete episodes, given that, IIRC, they recorded them down the line from the BBC, possibly on transmission, for editing into LPs.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Nov 19, 2003 13:41:43 GMT
Is that right? I always assumed the LPs were re-recorded versions of the TV sketches, with Cook and Moore put in studio to recreate them. Very interesting...
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Post by Adam James Smith on Nov 19, 2003 14:01:57 GMT
they're defnitely the TV originals. Sadly none of the repesed Decca soundtracks match up with the mute film fromthat episode..but the Decca archives should be looked into!
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Post by Adam James Smith on Nov 19, 2003 14:02:55 GMT
"Represed" = "Released"
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