AUGUST 2023 DISCOVERIES! Long post....
Sept 4, 2023 10:18:20 GMT
Jeff Leach, John Green, and 2 more like this
Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Sept 4, 2023 10:18:20 GMT
This is a cobbled-together list of discoveries made in August 2023 (and the first 4 days of September, oops....), some by me, some by others, and put together in a bit of a haphazard order!
An upload from the wsmspar1966 youtube channel has lots of the usual adverts and continuity. At about 2.17.47 through it, there's a presumably wiped Postscript, which was TSW's pre-Closedown programme.
Should anyone be able to work out an estimated tx date for this, please let me know in the comments below.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSCZcvKWCx8
Something that's meant to be missing that's actually at the BFI....
24.02.1961 22:30 - 23:00
Compass, 'Appointment with ... Danny Blanchflower', 24/02/1962 (Granada) is held by them:-
""BFI indentifier 636638
1961.02.22
Appointment with Danny Blanchflower
Granada Television
Danny Blanchflower discusses his thoughts about football, it’s value and the particular qualities which make it unique among sports.
Cast: Henry Fairlie; Danny Blanchflower
2-inch Quadruplex - Video-405 TX date: 1961.02.22 - C-1026655 Status Pending - Material requires inspection to determine preservation or access status
Digital Betacam-Video-28.1 minutes 625 PAL - C-1164840
MOV - 00.28.12 minutes - V210 - N-3613800""
Cream audios from wiped BBC TV?
Some new, some upgraded....
01 I'm So Glad - Unreleased, Saturday Club, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 11-8-1966 02 Steppin' Out [Instrumental] - Unreleased, Guitar Club, BBC, Aeolian Hall Studio 2, London, Britain, 11-28-1966 03 I Feel Free [Live Vocals Over Remixed Studio Version]* - Unreleased, Top of the Pops, BBC, Lime Grove Studios, London, Britain, 12-21-1966 04 Traintime [Edit] - Unreleased, Saturday Club, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 1-10-1967 05 Take It Back - Unreleased, Monday Monday, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 3-20-1967 06 We're Going Wrong - Unreleased, Saturday Club, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 5-30-1967 07 Dance the Night Away - Unreleased, Marquee Club, London, 5-23-1967 08 World of Pain - Unreleased, Marquee Club, London, 5-23-1967 09 Strange Brew - Unreleased, Dee Time, BBC, Dickinson Road Studios, Manchester, Britain, 6-22-1967 10 Tales of Brave Ulysses - Unreleased, The Joe Loss Show, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 7-14-1967 11 We're Going Wrong - Unreleased, Top Gear, BBC, Aeolian Hall Studio 2, London, Britain, 1-9-1968 12 SWLABR [She Walks like a Bearded Rainbow] [Alternate Take] - Unreleased, Top Gear, BBC, Aeolian Hall Studio 2, London, Britain, 1-9-1968 13 Sunshine of Your Love - Those Were The Days (Glen Campbell Show (TV Show), CBS Studios, Los Angeles, CA, 5-1968) N. S. U. - Unreleased, Lime Grove Studios (Studio G), BBC, London, Britain, 11-26-1967
I'll need to doublecheck some of the information.
Adam Smith! Thoughts?
*re-recorded, rather than remixed!
LINK:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wji24LeyIxw
Something I forgot about and was fortunately reminded of by an esteemed member of this group by accident....
Here's 11/14 episodes of 'Everyday Maths' (BBC 1978/9).
Three of these - 09/11/1978 Time and Table, 08/03/1979 Say It with Figures – 1 and 17/05/1979 Fast and Furious were wiped.
Kaleidoscope have copies of these three and the uploads did the rounds, but you may not have them.
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv1UpvxmZIp0FuZ5U-c8OeRfNobfeA57M
Missing? Not sure these are, but there's very little way of telling.
ITV have 9 (undated) episodes of Gambit - introduced by everyone's favourite Skate, Fred Dinenage - and the BFI have a couple as well, but that's a micturatingly poor return from 10 Series worth of episodes.
These two seem to come from 1981 - and neither are the same common upload that's been on-and-off youtube for donkey's years (I've checked).
Anyway, thanks again to the wsmspar1966 youtube channel.
Fred starts shuffling his pack at around 1.09.10:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbda4bDAxfE
PS: Ident and continuity lovers will note that there's also a spiffingly large amount of that on this upload too.
A few seconds of some silent footage of People and Places featuring Gay Byrne was spotted online by Mitchell Nash. Unfortunately I can't seem to post the link.
Look, this is an audio that was recovered of an episode of Till Death Do Us Part (Monopoly, 19/01/1968).
I KNOW the show is divisive.
My duty to you is to let you know of all the discoveries I make and you can make your own decisions. We're all adults, most of us?
So it's here.
No comments necessary.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdAh9wOtF38
Not much to see here; this is an old discovery of mine that's been on bootleg for donkey's; my copy is the same one that Kaleidoscope have.
THAT said, you might not have this, and while I am pretty sure all the episodes exist in a vault Stateside, that's never been confirmed.
So.... here's the Third Man episode (cue zither) from 19/02/1960 and it's called Castle in Spain:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwAT_WEvOYU
The reason the BBC don't have any episodes any more is because they no longer have the rights to show them.
I am not entirely sure if the Beeb have this or not, but.... part of their coverage of the State Opening of Parliament from 1950 - NOT the same as the 1 minute or so that Pathe have - that's newsreel footage - exists as part of an NBC 'program' called Watch the World - as shown by that network on 03/12/1950. I suspect the bit of film is around 3 or 4 minutes long. It's probably just the procession and it's not footage that was shown live, so probably just an excerpt from BBC News
Still, older than me....
www.worldcat.org/title/34054921
Here's a rare Play Away that WAS wiped (Kaleidoscope have a copy which comes from a different source) - this is the edition from 24/01/1981 www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCAaGuqzkQE
Just a wee part of a missing episode that.... IS out there. Somewhere. Definitely. Let me explain.... as per usual.
Travellers By Night was a TVS childrens' series that ran in 6 parts in 1985, and from what I can recall from the time, it got good reviews.
Anyway, there was a VHS release - apparently the year after - the thing is, I've never seen a copy and no one I know has either. VHS copies would be better than nowt, especially if the masters were nuked by Mickey Mouse.
The BFI have episode one. The other 5 are described as DV (i.e, they exist as domestic recordings), and I'm guessing Kaleidoscope have a copy.
I was a little surprised I missed a partial upload of episode 3 two years back (I was aware of the other youtube bit of episode 4), so it would be remiss not to mention it to you as I just spotted it this evening. I actually quite enjoyed it, although I kept thinking the kids from Apaches were going to guest star.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=giPQfMLDl1M
A second print of the Hugh and I episode 'Wedding Bells' was located in a private collection and sold on eBay during August.
According to tvbrain, the John Craven's Newsround presented here is wiped.
This is an upload of bits of children's TV and then the news programmes starting thereafter. This is from the 10th August 1982, as I said, the Newsround is meant to be lost.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTpjh5gpi7c
Two small bit of news.
Firstly, the About Britain episode 'Steam on the Settle and Carlisle' (which was originally a Border TV standalone programme) and exists in at least two different edits also seems to exist in a third version (the only difference appears to be in the credits).
This third version was a VHS release in Australia and a copy is at the National Library of Australia.
The other Border programme that I've tracked down is the edition of Revelations from 22/05/1988 featuring Anthony Hopkins. (I am aware of the Yusuf Islam and Laurens Van Der Post editions being extant.)
Mr Hopkins version can be found on VHS tape at the wonderful National Library of Wales.
Something else I neglected to spot.
A tiddly bit of TVS' Late Night Late, from the TV Museum's youtube channel. This features an interview with Robbie Coltrane and is from 02/05/1988:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=BouwmxmZhXU
A small part of a missing episode of Motormouth from 23/12/1989, as spotted by Robin Wardell It's the last bit of the last edition:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJNlShQkP00
You'd be wrong in thinking there weren't any more Home Cookery Club editions out there.
They appear like wee beasties on a hot summer night, almost unnoticeable at first, but they fly through your open bedroom window and while you're dozing they bite you before crawling off to an anonymous death in a rotting rhododendron bush.
Rather like the couple on Home Cookery Club. Where did they come from? Were they born with a level of patronization and passive-aggressiveness that surpasses anything ever found in Godalming? Are they forever sentenced to finish each other's sentences? Have you really got this far into the paragraph and realized it's just full of imbecilic rhetoric?
Anyway, this is a repeat broadcast of Apple and Cheshire Flan (originally shown on 03/10/1985), as transmitted on 06/05/1987. There's some IVC and TVS Adverts and all, and thanks to the ADC TV Collection for the upload, another winner.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK_fvnwgHYY
This upload is not new, but I never noticed before that it's got a specially recorded trailer.
The trail is for the 23/12/1978 edition of Celebrity Squares (which is also wiped) and it's here, starting at around 32 seconds in:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSq3odR14AE
Chris Balcombe says ""August 1978 clip from Southern Television's wiped 'Saturday Banana', networked to certain ITV regions. I borrowed my boss' huge early home video recorder and my Mum pressed the record button while I was doing my thing live at the Northam studios. The clip is far longer and includes a pop group being interviewed and performing (can't recall their name), but that version was deleted by Youtube due to copyright infringement."" www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCl9i71_kk
It was missing. It WAS.
For those of you who don't know, the 01/08/1987 edition of Summertime Special was one of those that Mickey Mouse devoured whole. It was another TVS programme that got lost somewhere between Southampton and Disney's Archive. (I'm going to blame P*rtsmouth FC. It's what I do....)
A few years ago, Kaleidoscope were donated an off-air of this show and another one seems to have turned up, as partially uploaded only minutes ago by the wonderful VHS Rewinds youtube channel.
And, in my time honoured habit of spotting old shows -it's got Cliff Richard on it.
Every. Year. Missing. Cliff. Richard. Turns. Up.
(Did the man ever holiday?)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAlTspS7bJo
Something I missed....
Uploaded on her own channel, this is Lulu appearing on a wiped edition of Summertime Special (TVS), and this dates from 06/08/1988.
I didn't flag this one up before because I assumed as it was on her own youtube channel it wasnae wiped and as I'd only had a cursory look at the listings for that season I noticed she was on one of the existing editions.
I was wrong.
Lulu appeared on EVERY SINGLE EDITION of the third season of Summertime Special and she's here arseing about with Cannon and Ball.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpj-lPyngyY
As spotted by Joñ Cottingham, here's a clip from 07/09/1984 featuring the last few moments of a missing edition of Stopwatch:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrvXFnVbXZI
Also with a trail and continuity.
About Britain - 11.02.1977 Ermine and South Shields (A Tyne Tees Television production.)
I am delighted to say that this exists at the BFI on 2-inch tape.
This was thought to be lost.
It's not - it exists under its' original broadcast title of 'A Lord by Accident' in their archive.
collections-search.bfi.org.uk/.../Choic.../150207464
OFF-TOPIC.
Did you want to watch the earliest known Australian colour TV recording*?
Ok, maybe you didn't, but it's here - Ch9's colour recording of the 1973 VFL Grand Final. Richmond v Carlton:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfcYriIfSdw
(*other than things filmed in colour which were also exported, obviously. I have watched Skippy, you know....)
So, this was recorded in colour, but only shown in monochrome, and wasn't exported as there's not a great market for Aussie Rules overseas.
Usually, I spot things that are missing - or are at least meant to be missing.
This is a little different.
This series is meant to exist.
I don't think it does....
Philip Renfrew recently wrote a great article for Transdiffusion All Talk : Broadcasting History (https://transdiffusion.org/.../whatever-happened-to-the.../) all about the early years of the 4th Channel and how some shows are sadly lost.
In that article he mentions the Ch4 sitcom Dream Stuffing and mentions how Limehouse Pictures who made the series aren't about anymore and that the BFI have just one episode (the first one, also on youtube).... and he's totally correct.
Kaleidoscope list it as existing in full on 1-inch but I don't think that's correct.
Anyway, here are the two episodes that exist on youtube - as mentioned in the article - www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vxs_Tn6kXg AND www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVi0grApk58
(Since I posted this on a group a few weeks back, someone has contacted me saying that they have every episode on VHS. Fingers crossed, eh?
Not missing, per se, but a database correction....
Play School, 19/02/1970.... shot on location in Linton in Craven.... according to tvbrain only exists as a telerecording....
actually.... this is in colour:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=567qHoGxUfk
I missed these and I have to confess I'm not even sure they're missing.
That said, these are all off-air recordings from the original 1979 series and the repeats in 1984 were shorter.
This is 'Can Seo', which was the BBC's series of Gaelic for beginners, starting, quite coindidentally the same year as the first Scottish Devolution Referendum.
Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that these aren't extant in their original format, but unlike 'Cuir Car' there's nothing in the National Library of Scotland; in addition this series hasn't surfaced since the 1980s. Of course, we know have BBC Alba, and one would normally expect a repeat of something as groundbreaking as this on that channel - which you'd think could be shown during that 17 hours or so of the day that they don't broadcast.
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL04B67DB0ABD8AAD2
David Palfreyman of Diteli Media has recently digitized 80 (EIGHTY) episodes of the cult ITV show Night Shift, which is not held by any broadcaster or central archive -it's held by the producers.
They will appear here:- www.youtube.com/@nightshift101
You know, sometimes I'm lucky enough to spot Missing Episodes without looking for them. Here's one of those examples....
So whilst rolling a medicinal cheroot and quaffing Lidl's finest Espresso Macchiato, I ambled upon my 'suggested' on youtube and lo-and-behold I have raggedly stumbled upon the missing Going for Gold Series 3 Final (08/03/1990), from a BBC Scotland transmission (preceded by part of an episode of Neighbours, but, hey-ho) and only uploaded in the wee hours.
Anyway, here it is:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=23fwY5XUImg
And then....I click on the youtube logo to refresh the page and the first suggestion I see is.... a wiped episode of Going for Gold....
This edition - rather flukily - I've managed to ascertain the date for - it's 13/09/1992.
Ici:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv0-9BAMKCY
Well, this was uploaded some days ago, I missed it and I'm blaming those pesky medicinal cheroots I smoke, or maybe the Tories.
Anyway, nobody else spotted it, so here's a wiped episode of the Big Breakfast from 02/02/1995:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO65XC70YY
Two wee things....
Community Service Announcements were a very particular thing broadcast (with that heading) by Grampian TV in the 1980s, and they carried on into the 1990s too.
The idea came from the US.... sort of.... and viewers outside of Northern Scotland would eventually get similar quick 'community' programmes of short duration occasionally nudging their way - sometimes unannounced in the schedules.
Anyway, the lasses and lads from Aberdeenshire were first, and here are two examples for youse.
The first is uploaded by Aidan Lunn and comes from 07/08/1987, and starts at approximately 5.50 in:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8F66tP87cs
The second is from 24/02/1994 and the bit I'm on about occurs at around 4.09:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUOBhjwAY_8
here's the very end of a partly missing Over the Moon episode.
This appears to be Wheels and Wires, originally shown on 20/12/1978, but this comes from a repeat broadcast on 22/12/1981.
In truth, I'm not sure which part of the episode is missing, whether it's the animation (like Bod) or the studio bits.
Anyway, it's here, and kudos to the JMX TV ARCHIVE youtube channel, again:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhgH_CGBVWE
PLEASE NOTE: The uploaded episode of Play School is NOT missing.
And also.... primarily for the completist.... it's part of a wiped episode of Farm Progress (Southern TV) and I can tell you is it's from Sunday 19th July 1981, which took me about 30 minutes to actually ascertain the date of. There's also a wiped Southern News... and some continuity as well. (doffs cap to the JMX TV ARCHIVE again).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TY1MOx0sE
Serendipity. There's a word.
By complete accident, coming up on my 'recommended' on youtube is this 30-seconds-or-so of Freddie Starr being interviewed by Bob Langley on Saturday Night at the Mill from 07/06/1980.
This is the most recent wiped edition of SNATM, and I have commented on the upload, mentioning this fact.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbUZX0WL7Yc
(the uploader replied and this 30 seconds is all they have.)
And as if by magic, another wiped episode of Wolf It! appears....
Series 1, Episode 7, 16/12/1993:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQdIb0oujD4
Keep them coming, ADC Collection....
This is from 13/01/1994, S01 E09:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiQG1A7ik9k
While on hiatus I spotted this wiped Night Thoughts from Thames (24/10/1984) and I thought of you all.
Starts at about 2.16:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPOz3XSm4ME
I'm still dredging up lost stuff; somewhere in between the iced coffee and dodgy-rollup miasma there is a functioning human being, you know.
Anyway, here's a teensy bit of audio that I missed and this is one song from the wiped Kathy Kirby Show from 01/01/1965, as uploaded by the BFC Channel on youtube.
This features the uprightly mobile Val Doonican. (See what I did there?)
Just the one song:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPhB9TEpZTk
This is perhaps clutching a wee bit at straws, but.... let me explain.
The Nine O'Clock News here from 05/05/1975 IS wiped (apart from a couple of inserts), so that's fine and dandy IN A WAY - but we're not really supposed to put news programmes on the group.
However, I'm not doing it for that. The eensyweensy bit of continuity previous to the programme mentions the Goodies - which people often forget was originally a BBC 2 programme and it's for this reason I post it, for ultra-ultra-completists.
(The Goodies episode in question is 'The End'.)
There's also a weather slide.
This may be the least important posting ever, but.... I mean it's actually my hat-trick of 1975 9 O'Clock News finds (one being in Canada!)
Anyway:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=txC1V18XHQk
A little while back I spotted one of the lost episodes of Running Loose (TVS, 1987/8) online and now I've spotted another one. My excuse is they hadn't uploaded the other one.
Now Kaleidoscope have got copies of these, but it seems these youtube uploads have not been watched very much at all - and it transpires that the organization that helped produce the series are still going, so it would be great to see if they have any or all of the 4 missing episodes of Season 2.
Anyway here's SE01 E02 www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA32Gqt-95Y AND
SE01 E03 www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoD2xVgvrO0
(both are mentioned so you don't need to go looking for the original post. The first five episodes are on there - but not SE01 E06 - and also one episode from Season 2.)
As just spotted by a chap called Robin Smith and posted on the Kaleidoscope group, here's Paul Griggs - in audio only - appearing on Rediffusion's* Here and Now on 27/03/1962.
Paul later was in Guys 'n' Dolls (the one with the afro who played guitar) and I don't know how I missed this as his TOTP clips and other stuff like Miss Anglia all got sent to Kaleidoscope and I know this as I was the bloke who referred them to him!!!!
Anyway, it's here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrJAPyz0ZiU
(* Associated Rediffusion, NOT ATV as stated....)
For the completist, again....
VHS Gold's youtube channel have uploaded a specially filmed trail for Record Breakers recorded in the Weather Studio 03/11/1979.
(the Dr Who trail mentioned is just the CA announcing it, nothing to see as such, sorry.)
Anyway:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKnRo_1kJmo
....and for some reason I've located another programme which is/was lost. I'll explain.
It's the ADC Collection youtube channel again and it's another episode of That's Love - this one is SE03 E03, and it's from 08/03/1990. As you'll probably note, it's been on youtube since the ARK! The reason I over looked this - while spotting 6 other episodes of the series over the years - is probably because I thought all the missing shows were from Season 1.
Well this DID get wiped, but Kaleidoscope have a copy now. It was flagged up as missing on a recent pdf thingy I got.
Anyway, enough of my yakking:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5ZmHfv-qfo
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Well, here's an audio find of Opportunity Knocks.
(there is video, but it's a bit low-quality....)
This is a recording of the band Tivvy (from Dundee) appearing on the 27/02/1978 edition of that show doing a decent job of covering 10cc.
This was the last wiped edition.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvWTfBMUQwM
Just so as you know....
Heroes II - The Return was a 1991 British/Australian mini-series about Operation Rimau during WW2 It was a sequel to the 1989 mini-series The Heroes (which is at the BFI).
The UK co-producers of both mini-series were TVS Films and the programmes were shown over here on the 15th and 16th December 1991.
The masters aren't held in the UK; they're held by Buckley Films in Australia and the episodes have been issued on DVD.
Not exactly finds - but....
I have just noticed two errors on tvbrain.
The programme concerned is ATV's Stop Look Listen; the editions in question are Rail 23/11/1971 and Time 11/01/1972. They both exist. The entries for the two episodes currently list them as junked, which is incorrect.
It's a database error rather than a couple of discoveries, but if I didn't say that, pretty much no one would have known!!!!
Anyway, I've let Kaleidoscope know about these and there we are....
Well that's it. Also thanks to Anonymous of Anglia for spotting a couple or three of these.
An upload from the wsmspar1966 youtube channel has lots of the usual adverts and continuity. At about 2.17.47 through it, there's a presumably wiped Postscript, which was TSW's pre-Closedown programme.
Should anyone be able to work out an estimated tx date for this, please let me know in the comments below.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSCZcvKWCx8
Something that's meant to be missing that's actually at the BFI....
24.02.1961 22:30 - 23:00
Compass, 'Appointment with ... Danny Blanchflower', 24/02/1962 (Granada) is held by them:-
""BFI indentifier 636638
1961.02.22
Appointment with Danny Blanchflower
Granada Television
Danny Blanchflower discusses his thoughts about football, it’s value and the particular qualities which make it unique among sports.
Cast: Henry Fairlie; Danny Blanchflower
2-inch Quadruplex - Video-405 TX date: 1961.02.22 - C-1026655 Status Pending - Material requires inspection to determine preservation or access status
Digital Betacam-Video-28.1 minutes 625 PAL - C-1164840
MOV - 00.28.12 minutes - V210 - N-3613800""
Cream audios from wiped BBC TV?
Some new, some upgraded....
01 I'm So Glad - Unreleased, Saturday Club, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 11-8-1966 02 Steppin' Out [Instrumental] - Unreleased, Guitar Club, BBC, Aeolian Hall Studio 2, London, Britain, 11-28-1966 03 I Feel Free [Live Vocals Over Remixed Studio Version]* - Unreleased, Top of the Pops, BBC, Lime Grove Studios, London, Britain, 12-21-1966 04 Traintime [Edit] - Unreleased, Saturday Club, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 1-10-1967 05 Take It Back - Unreleased, Monday Monday, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 3-20-1967 06 We're Going Wrong - Unreleased, Saturday Club, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 5-30-1967 07 Dance the Night Away - Unreleased, Marquee Club, London, 5-23-1967 08 World of Pain - Unreleased, Marquee Club, London, 5-23-1967 09 Strange Brew - Unreleased, Dee Time, BBC, Dickinson Road Studios, Manchester, Britain, 6-22-1967 10 Tales of Brave Ulysses - Unreleased, The Joe Loss Show, BBC, Playhouse Theatre, London, Britain, 7-14-1967 11 We're Going Wrong - Unreleased, Top Gear, BBC, Aeolian Hall Studio 2, London, Britain, 1-9-1968 12 SWLABR [She Walks like a Bearded Rainbow] [Alternate Take] - Unreleased, Top Gear, BBC, Aeolian Hall Studio 2, London, Britain, 1-9-1968 13 Sunshine of Your Love - Those Were The Days (Glen Campbell Show (TV Show), CBS Studios, Los Angeles, CA, 5-1968) N. S. U. - Unreleased, Lime Grove Studios (Studio G), BBC, London, Britain, 11-26-1967
I'll need to doublecheck some of the information.
Adam Smith! Thoughts?
*re-recorded, rather than remixed!
LINK:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wji24LeyIxw
Something I forgot about and was fortunately reminded of by an esteemed member of this group by accident....
Here's 11/14 episodes of 'Everyday Maths' (BBC 1978/9).
Three of these - 09/11/1978 Time and Table, 08/03/1979 Say It with Figures – 1 and 17/05/1979 Fast and Furious were wiped.
Kaleidoscope have copies of these three and the uploads did the rounds, but you may not have them.
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv1UpvxmZIp0FuZ5U-c8OeRfNobfeA57M
Missing? Not sure these are, but there's very little way of telling.
ITV have 9 (undated) episodes of Gambit - introduced by everyone's favourite Skate, Fred Dinenage - and the BFI have a couple as well, but that's a micturatingly poor return from 10 Series worth of episodes.
These two seem to come from 1981 - and neither are the same common upload that's been on-and-off youtube for donkey's years (I've checked).
Anyway, thanks again to the wsmspar1966 youtube channel.
Fred starts shuffling his pack at around 1.09.10:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbda4bDAxfE
PS: Ident and continuity lovers will note that there's also a spiffingly large amount of that on this upload too.
A few seconds of some silent footage of People and Places featuring Gay Byrne was spotted online by Mitchell Nash. Unfortunately I can't seem to post the link.
Look, this is an audio that was recovered of an episode of Till Death Do Us Part (Monopoly, 19/01/1968).
I KNOW the show is divisive.
My duty to you is to let you know of all the discoveries I make and you can make your own decisions. We're all adults, most of us?
So it's here.
No comments necessary.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdAh9wOtF38
Not much to see here; this is an old discovery of mine that's been on bootleg for donkey's; my copy is the same one that Kaleidoscope have.
THAT said, you might not have this, and while I am pretty sure all the episodes exist in a vault Stateside, that's never been confirmed.
So.... here's the Third Man episode (cue zither) from 19/02/1960 and it's called Castle in Spain:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwAT_WEvOYU
The reason the BBC don't have any episodes any more is because they no longer have the rights to show them.
I am not entirely sure if the Beeb have this or not, but.... part of their coverage of the State Opening of Parliament from 1950 - NOT the same as the 1 minute or so that Pathe have - that's newsreel footage - exists as part of an NBC 'program' called Watch the World - as shown by that network on 03/12/1950. I suspect the bit of film is around 3 or 4 minutes long. It's probably just the procession and it's not footage that was shown live, so probably just an excerpt from BBC News
Still, older than me....
www.worldcat.org/title/34054921
Here's a rare Play Away that WAS wiped (Kaleidoscope have a copy which comes from a different source) - this is the edition from 24/01/1981 www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCAaGuqzkQE
Just a wee part of a missing episode that.... IS out there. Somewhere. Definitely. Let me explain.... as per usual.
Travellers By Night was a TVS childrens' series that ran in 6 parts in 1985, and from what I can recall from the time, it got good reviews.
Anyway, there was a VHS release - apparently the year after - the thing is, I've never seen a copy and no one I know has either. VHS copies would be better than nowt, especially if the masters were nuked by Mickey Mouse.
The BFI have episode one. The other 5 are described as DV (i.e, they exist as domestic recordings), and I'm guessing Kaleidoscope have a copy.
I was a little surprised I missed a partial upload of episode 3 two years back (I was aware of the other youtube bit of episode 4), so it would be remiss not to mention it to you as I just spotted it this evening. I actually quite enjoyed it, although I kept thinking the kids from Apaches were going to guest star.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=giPQfMLDl1M
A second print of the Hugh and I episode 'Wedding Bells' was located in a private collection and sold on eBay during August.
According to tvbrain, the John Craven's Newsround presented here is wiped.
This is an upload of bits of children's TV and then the news programmes starting thereafter. This is from the 10th August 1982, as I said, the Newsround is meant to be lost.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTpjh5gpi7c
Two small bit of news.
Firstly, the About Britain episode 'Steam on the Settle and Carlisle' (which was originally a Border TV standalone programme) and exists in at least two different edits also seems to exist in a third version (the only difference appears to be in the credits).
This third version was a VHS release in Australia and a copy is at the National Library of Australia.
The other Border programme that I've tracked down is the edition of Revelations from 22/05/1988 featuring Anthony Hopkins. (I am aware of the Yusuf Islam and Laurens Van Der Post editions being extant.)
Mr Hopkins version can be found on VHS tape at the wonderful National Library of Wales.
Something else I neglected to spot.
A tiddly bit of TVS' Late Night Late, from the TV Museum's youtube channel. This features an interview with Robbie Coltrane and is from 02/05/1988:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=BouwmxmZhXU
A small part of a missing episode of Motormouth from 23/12/1989, as spotted by Robin Wardell It's the last bit of the last edition:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJNlShQkP00
You'd be wrong in thinking there weren't any more Home Cookery Club editions out there.
They appear like wee beasties on a hot summer night, almost unnoticeable at first, but they fly through your open bedroom window and while you're dozing they bite you before crawling off to an anonymous death in a rotting rhododendron bush.
Rather like the couple on Home Cookery Club. Where did they come from? Were they born with a level of patronization and passive-aggressiveness that surpasses anything ever found in Godalming? Are they forever sentenced to finish each other's sentences? Have you really got this far into the paragraph and realized it's just full of imbecilic rhetoric?
Anyway, this is a repeat broadcast of Apple and Cheshire Flan (originally shown on 03/10/1985), as transmitted on 06/05/1987. There's some IVC and TVS Adverts and all, and thanks to the ADC TV Collection for the upload, another winner.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK_fvnwgHYY
This upload is not new, but I never noticed before that it's got a specially recorded trailer.
The trail is for the 23/12/1978 edition of Celebrity Squares (which is also wiped) and it's here, starting at around 32 seconds in:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSq3odR14AE
Chris Balcombe says ""August 1978 clip from Southern Television's wiped 'Saturday Banana', networked to certain ITV regions. I borrowed my boss' huge early home video recorder and my Mum pressed the record button while I was doing my thing live at the Northam studios. The clip is far longer and includes a pop group being interviewed and performing (can't recall their name), but that version was deleted by Youtube due to copyright infringement."" www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCl9i71_kk
It was missing. It WAS.
For those of you who don't know, the 01/08/1987 edition of Summertime Special was one of those that Mickey Mouse devoured whole. It was another TVS programme that got lost somewhere between Southampton and Disney's Archive. (I'm going to blame P*rtsmouth FC. It's what I do....)
A few years ago, Kaleidoscope were donated an off-air of this show and another one seems to have turned up, as partially uploaded only minutes ago by the wonderful VHS Rewinds youtube channel.
And, in my time honoured habit of spotting old shows -it's got Cliff Richard on it.
Every. Year. Missing. Cliff. Richard. Turns. Up.
(Did the man ever holiday?)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAlTspS7bJo
Something I missed....
Uploaded on her own channel, this is Lulu appearing on a wiped edition of Summertime Special (TVS), and this dates from 06/08/1988.
I didn't flag this one up before because I assumed as it was on her own youtube channel it wasnae wiped and as I'd only had a cursory look at the listings for that season I noticed she was on one of the existing editions.
I was wrong.
Lulu appeared on EVERY SINGLE EDITION of the third season of Summertime Special and she's here arseing about with Cannon and Ball.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpj-lPyngyY
As spotted by Joñ Cottingham, here's a clip from 07/09/1984 featuring the last few moments of a missing edition of Stopwatch:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrvXFnVbXZI
Also with a trail and continuity.
About Britain - 11.02.1977 Ermine and South Shields (A Tyne Tees Television production.)
I am delighted to say that this exists at the BFI on 2-inch tape.
This was thought to be lost.
It's not - it exists under its' original broadcast title of 'A Lord by Accident' in their archive.
collections-search.bfi.org.uk/.../Choic.../150207464
OFF-TOPIC.
Did you want to watch the earliest known Australian colour TV recording*?
Ok, maybe you didn't, but it's here - Ch9's colour recording of the 1973 VFL Grand Final. Richmond v Carlton:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfcYriIfSdw
(*other than things filmed in colour which were also exported, obviously. I have watched Skippy, you know....)
So, this was recorded in colour, but only shown in monochrome, and wasn't exported as there's not a great market for Aussie Rules overseas.
Usually, I spot things that are missing - or are at least meant to be missing.
This is a little different.
This series is meant to exist.
I don't think it does....
Philip Renfrew recently wrote a great article for Transdiffusion All Talk : Broadcasting History (https://transdiffusion.org/.../whatever-happened-to-the.../) all about the early years of the 4th Channel and how some shows are sadly lost.
In that article he mentions the Ch4 sitcom Dream Stuffing and mentions how Limehouse Pictures who made the series aren't about anymore and that the BFI have just one episode (the first one, also on youtube).... and he's totally correct.
Kaleidoscope list it as existing in full on 1-inch but I don't think that's correct.
Anyway, here are the two episodes that exist on youtube - as mentioned in the article - www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vxs_Tn6kXg AND www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVi0grApk58
(Since I posted this on a group a few weeks back, someone has contacted me saying that they have every episode on VHS. Fingers crossed, eh?
Not missing, per se, but a database correction....
Play School, 19/02/1970.... shot on location in Linton in Craven.... according to tvbrain only exists as a telerecording....
actually.... this is in colour:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=567qHoGxUfk
I missed these and I have to confess I'm not even sure they're missing.
That said, these are all off-air recordings from the original 1979 series and the repeats in 1984 were shorter.
This is 'Can Seo', which was the BBC's series of Gaelic for beginners, starting, quite coindidentally the same year as the first Scottish Devolution Referendum.
Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that these aren't extant in their original format, but unlike 'Cuir Car' there's nothing in the National Library of Scotland; in addition this series hasn't surfaced since the 1980s. Of course, we know have BBC Alba, and one would normally expect a repeat of something as groundbreaking as this on that channel - which you'd think could be shown during that 17 hours or so of the day that they don't broadcast.
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL04B67DB0ABD8AAD2
David Palfreyman of Diteli Media has recently digitized 80 (EIGHTY) episodes of the cult ITV show Night Shift, which is not held by any broadcaster or central archive -it's held by the producers.
They will appear here:- www.youtube.com/@nightshift101
You know, sometimes I'm lucky enough to spot Missing Episodes without looking for them. Here's one of those examples....
So whilst rolling a medicinal cheroot and quaffing Lidl's finest Espresso Macchiato, I ambled upon my 'suggested' on youtube and lo-and-behold I have raggedly stumbled upon the missing Going for Gold Series 3 Final (08/03/1990), from a BBC Scotland transmission (preceded by part of an episode of Neighbours, but, hey-ho) and only uploaded in the wee hours.
Anyway, here it is:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=23fwY5XUImg
And then....I click on the youtube logo to refresh the page and the first suggestion I see is.... a wiped episode of Going for Gold....
This edition - rather flukily - I've managed to ascertain the date for - it's 13/09/1992.
Ici:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv0-9BAMKCY
Well, this was uploaded some days ago, I missed it and I'm blaming those pesky medicinal cheroots I smoke, or maybe the Tories.
Anyway, nobody else spotted it, so here's a wiped episode of the Big Breakfast from 02/02/1995:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO65XC70YY
Two wee things....
Community Service Announcements were a very particular thing broadcast (with that heading) by Grampian TV in the 1980s, and they carried on into the 1990s too.
The idea came from the US.... sort of.... and viewers outside of Northern Scotland would eventually get similar quick 'community' programmes of short duration occasionally nudging their way - sometimes unannounced in the schedules.
Anyway, the lasses and lads from Aberdeenshire were first, and here are two examples for youse.
The first is uploaded by Aidan Lunn and comes from 07/08/1987, and starts at approximately 5.50 in:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8F66tP87cs
The second is from 24/02/1994 and the bit I'm on about occurs at around 4.09:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUOBhjwAY_8
here's the very end of a partly missing Over the Moon episode.
This appears to be Wheels and Wires, originally shown on 20/12/1978, but this comes from a repeat broadcast on 22/12/1981.
In truth, I'm not sure which part of the episode is missing, whether it's the animation (like Bod) or the studio bits.
Anyway, it's here, and kudos to the JMX TV ARCHIVE youtube channel, again:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhgH_CGBVWE
PLEASE NOTE: The uploaded episode of Play School is NOT missing.
And also.... primarily for the completist.... it's part of a wiped episode of Farm Progress (Southern TV) and I can tell you is it's from Sunday 19th July 1981, which took me about 30 minutes to actually ascertain the date of. There's also a wiped Southern News... and some continuity as well. (doffs cap to the JMX TV ARCHIVE again).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TY1MOx0sE
Serendipity. There's a word.
By complete accident, coming up on my 'recommended' on youtube is this 30-seconds-or-so of Freddie Starr being interviewed by Bob Langley on Saturday Night at the Mill from 07/06/1980.
This is the most recent wiped edition of SNATM, and I have commented on the upload, mentioning this fact.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbUZX0WL7Yc
(the uploader replied and this 30 seconds is all they have.)
And as if by magic, another wiped episode of Wolf It! appears....
Series 1, Episode 7, 16/12/1993:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQdIb0oujD4
Keep them coming, ADC Collection....
This is from 13/01/1994, S01 E09:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiQG1A7ik9k
While on hiatus I spotted this wiped Night Thoughts from Thames (24/10/1984) and I thought of you all.
Starts at about 2.16:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPOz3XSm4ME
I'm still dredging up lost stuff; somewhere in between the iced coffee and dodgy-rollup miasma there is a functioning human being, you know.
Anyway, here's a teensy bit of audio that I missed and this is one song from the wiped Kathy Kirby Show from 01/01/1965, as uploaded by the BFC Channel on youtube.
This features the uprightly mobile Val Doonican. (See what I did there?)
Just the one song:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPhB9TEpZTk
This is perhaps clutching a wee bit at straws, but.... let me explain.
The Nine O'Clock News here from 05/05/1975 IS wiped (apart from a couple of inserts), so that's fine and dandy IN A WAY - but we're not really supposed to put news programmes on the group.
However, I'm not doing it for that. The eensyweensy bit of continuity previous to the programme mentions the Goodies - which people often forget was originally a BBC 2 programme and it's for this reason I post it, for ultra-ultra-completists.
(The Goodies episode in question is 'The End'.)
There's also a weather slide.
This may be the least important posting ever, but.... I mean it's actually my hat-trick of 1975 9 O'Clock News finds (one being in Canada!)
Anyway:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=txC1V18XHQk
A little while back I spotted one of the lost episodes of Running Loose (TVS, 1987/8) online and now I've spotted another one. My excuse is they hadn't uploaded the other one.
Now Kaleidoscope have got copies of these, but it seems these youtube uploads have not been watched very much at all - and it transpires that the organization that helped produce the series are still going, so it would be great to see if they have any or all of the 4 missing episodes of Season 2.
Anyway here's SE01 E02 www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA32Gqt-95Y AND
SE01 E03 www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoD2xVgvrO0
(both are mentioned so you don't need to go looking for the original post. The first five episodes are on there - but not SE01 E06 - and also one episode from Season 2.)
As just spotted by a chap called Robin Smith and posted on the Kaleidoscope group, here's Paul Griggs - in audio only - appearing on Rediffusion's* Here and Now on 27/03/1962.
Paul later was in Guys 'n' Dolls (the one with the afro who played guitar) and I don't know how I missed this as his TOTP clips and other stuff like Miss Anglia all got sent to Kaleidoscope and I know this as I was the bloke who referred them to him!!!!
Anyway, it's here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrJAPyz0ZiU
(* Associated Rediffusion, NOT ATV as stated....)
For the completist, again....
VHS Gold's youtube channel have uploaded a specially filmed trail for Record Breakers recorded in the Weather Studio 03/11/1979.
(the Dr Who trail mentioned is just the CA announcing it, nothing to see as such, sorry.)
Anyway:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKnRo_1kJmo
....and for some reason I've located another programme which is/was lost. I'll explain.
It's the ADC Collection youtube channel again and it's another episode of That's Love - this one is SE03 E03, and it's from 08/03/1990. As you'll probably note, it's been on youtube since the ARK! The reason I over looked this - while spotting 6 other episodes of the series over the years - is probably because I thought all the missing shows were from Season 1.
Well this DID get wiped, but Kaleidoscope have a copy now. It was flagged up as missing on a recent pdf thingy I got.
Anyway, enough of my yakking:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5ZmHfv-qfo
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Well, here's an audio find of Opportunity Knocks.
(there is video, but it's a bit low-quality....)
This is a recording of the band Tivvy (from Dundee) appearing on the 27/02/1978 edition of that show doing a decent job of covering 10cc.
This was the last wiped edition.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvWTfBMUQwM
Just so as you know....
Heroes II - The Return was a 1991 British/Australian mini-series about Operation Rimau during WW2 It was a sequel to the 1989 mini-series The Heroes (which is at the BFI).
The UK co-producers of both mini-series were TVS Films and the programmes were shown over here on the 15th and 16th December 1991.
The masters aren't held in the UK; they're held by Buckley Films in Australia and the episodes have been issued on DVD.
Not exactly finds - but....
I have just noticed two errors on tvbrain.
The programme concerned is ATV's Stop Look Listen; the editions in question are Rail 23/11/1971 and Time 11/01/1972. They both exist. The entries for the two episodes currently list them as junked, which is incorrect.
It's a database error rather than a couple of discoveries, but if I didn't say that, pretty much no one would have known!!!!
Anyway, I've let Kaleidoscope know about these and there we are....
Well that's it. Also thanks to Anonymous of Anglia for spotting a couple or three of these.
