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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2006 20:41:03 GMT
Having seen the David Frost and the Yippies clip (1970) on YouTube recently has left me wondering what exactly is the archive status of Frost's ITV shows from the 60s and 70s. So, does anybody know how much survives of The Frost Programme (Rediffusion), and Frost on Friday / Saturday / Sunday (LWT)? And what years were they broadcast? Thanks in advance.  |
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Post by Frank Wales on Oct 31, 2006 22:51:14 GMT
The IMDB is starting to fill up uk.imdb.com/title/tt0062563/epcastthe John and Yoko one was wiped but a dupe was found in a private collection the famose Beatles one is listed under Frost On Sunday |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2006 10:11:50 GMT
I don't think the Beatles edition exists in it's entirety, does it? Apple have the Beatles segments on colour tape though, including Frost's intro / chat with them.
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Post by Ade Gregg on Nov 1, 2006 13:31:49 GMT
Acrhive status (copied from Lost UK TV Shows)
Frost On Saturday
Series 1
o 03.08.68 Featuring Bob Hope (missing)
o 10.08.68 Episode 2 (missing)
o 17.08.68 Episode 3 (missing)
o 31.08.68 Episode 5 (missing)
o 07.09.68 Episode 6 (missing)
o 14.09.68 Episode 7 (missing)
o 21.09.68 Episode 8 (missing)
o 05.10.68 Episode 10 (missing)
o 12.10.68 Episode 11 (missing)
o 19.10.68 Episode 12 (missing)
o 26.10.68 Episode 13 (missing)
o 02.11.68 Episode 14 (missing)
o 09.11.68 Episode 15 (missing)
o 23.11.68 Episode 17 (missing)
o 07.12.68 Episode 19 (missing)
o 21.12.68 Episode 21 (missing)
o 28.12.68 Featuring All the t/x dates above are those of LWT. (missing)
Series 2
o 20.09.69 Episode 1 (missing)
o 27.09.69 Episode 2 (missing)
o 04.10.69 Episode 3 (missing)
o 11.10.69 Episode 4 (missing)
o 18.10.69 Episode 5 (missing)
o 25.10.69 Episode 6 (missing)
o 01.11.69 Episode 7 (missing)
o 08.11.69 Episode 8 (missing)
o 15.11.69 Episode 9 (missing)
o 29.11.69 Episode 11 (missing)
o 06.12.69 Featuring Peter Sellers, Spike Milligan, Ringo Starr (missing)
o 13.12.69 Episode 13 (missing)
Frost On Sundday
Series 1
o 11.08.68 Featuring Sandie Shaw, Hines Hines & Dad (missing)
o 18.08.68 Episode 3 (missing)
o 25.08.68 Episode 4 (missing)
o 01.09.68 Episode 5 (missing)
o 08.09.68 Featuring The Beatles (missing)
o 15.09.68 Episode 7 (missing)
o 22.09.68 Episode 8 (missing)
o 29.09.68 Episode 9 (missing)
o 06.10.68 Featuring Charlie Callas, Sandie Shaw (missing)
o 13.10.68 Episode 11 (missing)
o 20.10.68 Featuring Vicky Carr (missing)
o 27.10.68 Featuring The Bachelors, Tessie O'Shea (missing)
o 03.11.68 Featuring Joan Rivers (missing)
o 10.11.68 Featuring Des O'Connor, Françoise Hardy, Dorothy Squires (missing)
o 17.11.68 Featuring Stanley Baxter, Marion Ryan, Howard Storm (missing)
o 01.12.68 Featuring Tom Jones, Herman’s Hermits, Caterina Valente (missing)
o 08.12.68 Featuring Dusty Springfield, Nina Simone, Johnny Ray (missing)
o 15.12.68 Featuring Joe Brown, Roy Hudd, Abbe Lane (missing)
o 22.12.68 Featuring Jackie Trent, Scott Walker, Dudley Moore Trio (missing)
o 05.01.69 Featuring Topol, Billy Eckstine, Nina & Frederick (missing)
Series 2
o 04.01.70 Featuring Rolf Harris (missing)
o 11.01.70 Featuring Billy Eckstine (missing)
o 18.01.70 Featuring Sam Costa (missing)
o 25.01.70 Featuring Woody Allen (missing)
o 22.03.70 Featuring Eartha Kitt (missing)
Frost's Weekly
o 21.12.73 Episode 2 (missing)
o 28.12.73 Episode 3 (missing)
o 04.01.74 Episode 4 (missing)
o 11.01.74 Episode 5 (missing)
o 18.01.74 Episode 6 (missing)
o 25.01.74 Episode 7 (missing)
The Frost Report
Series 1
o 28.04.66 Love (missing)
Series 2
o 06.04.67 Money (missing)
o 20.04.67 The Forces (missing)
o 27.04.67 Episode 5 (missing)
o 04.05.67 Parliament (missing)
o 11.05.67 The Countryside (missing)
o 18.05.67 Industry (missing)
o 25.05.67 Culture (missing)
o 01.06.67 Episode 10 (missing)
o 08.06.67 Crime (missing)
o 15.06.67 Episode 12 (missing)
o 22.06.67 Youth (missing)
o 29.06.67 Episode 14 (missing)
o 26.12.67 Frost Over Christmas (missing)
That was the week that was
Series 1
* 13.04.63 Episode 21 (missing)
Im sure most of series 2 is gone as well
NOT SO MUCH A PROGRAMME MORE A WAY OF LIFE.
+ 12.12.64 Episode 15 (missing)
+ 24.01.65 Episode 31 (missing)
A Degree Of Frost 1963 all exist ? or was it a special?
1966-67 David Frost's Night Out in London Does this exist?
1971-73 The David Frost Revue Does this exist?
1961 Let's Twist On the Riviera ?
ok there you go any of these found yet!!!
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Post by Andrew Martin on Nov 1, 2006 13:56:43 GMT
You're (or rather the website is) way out on That Was the Week - that edition is not missing, it's always existed in the archive, as do all the episodes of series 2. The only significant missing part of the series is the first half of the very first show, which went missing many years ago.
Not So much a Programme - those editions are missing, as are 30/1/65 (that's assuming these editions were broadcast and it's not just there was something else on that meant they skipped a day?). Four untx'd pilots were also made for the show, three of which still exist.
There was only one Degree of Frost, which was recorded as a pilot but was transmitted, on 18/5/64 and still exists.
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Post by Ade Gregg on Nov 1, 2006 20:36:37 GMT
Check out www.lostshows.com/That where i got my info and hassle them out .. Thanks i diddnt know that database was THAT far out.. bugger ive been giving this to film collectors i know who have huge collections of TR's GREAT !!! |
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Post by Peter Chadwick on Nov 2, 2006 4:46:11 GMT
I don't think the Beatles edition exists in it's entirety, does it? Apple have the Beatles segments on colour tape though, including Frost's intro / chat with them. I'm not sure about the whole edition, Laurence, but Apple does have the day's 'shoot' (multiple versions/takes of 'Hey Jude') . I thought the Frost shows were owned by his own company 'Paradine Productions'. In which case, they'd most probably all survive. BTW, I've finally managed to register, but not under my real name, which I always used before. What do I do if the person who started using my real name manages to register with it?. |
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Post by Martin Ireland on Nov 2, 2006 11:23:59 GMT
The Bob Hope edition 1 from the LWT shows certainly exists - as it has been heavily featured recently on ITV3.
The ITN Archive website has a full list of the LWT shows which exist. There are also several early LWT shows doing the rounds on the collectors' circuit.
In the nineties, Channel 4 (when it was a fantastic archive station) transmitted the Rediffusion Frost show - the one with that dodgy Asian landlord.
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Post by Bevan W Thomas on Nov 2, 2006 12:28:52 GMT
What about Touch of Frost? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2006 14:54:50 GMT
You're (or rather the website is) way out on That Was the Week - that edition is not missing, it's always existed in the archive, as do all the episodes of series 2. The only significant missing part of the series is the first half of the very first show, which went missing many years ago. Thanks for the info, Andrew. As I suspected, that site is wildly inaccurate as regards what is in the archives. It shouldn't be taken as reliable; the Kaleidoscope guides are the most accurate thing on the subject. Even the ITN database is not an accurate account of what is in the respective ITV archives and is more a record of shows that were made rather than what still exists of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2006 15:10:04 GMT
I'm not sure about the whole edition, Laurence, but Apple does have the day's 'shoot' (multiple versions/takes of 'Hey Jude') . I thought the Frost shows were owned by his own company 'Paradine Productions'. In which case, they'd most probably all survive. BTW, I've finally managed to register, but not under my real name, which I always used before. What do I do if the person who started using my real name manages to register with it?. Yes, Apple has the Beatles material that was used on Frost's show although it was made as promo material for The Beatles to sell to various shows here and abroad themselves (e.g. TOTP, which also used the footage) and wasn't shot specifically for Frost; Frost's intro was recorded on the set of the promo shoot, so as to seemlessly give the air of The Beatles being in the LWT studio itself. This was effectively bought-in material for insertion into the Frost show. More info is in Mark Lewisohn's book "The Complete Beatles Chronicle". Paradine Productions had nothing to do with the Frost shows - they were made by LWT. On a more general note, the very first Frost show with Bob Hope does seem to exist as a t/r because clips from it have been used in retrospectives (despite the fact that the Lost TV Shows site lists it as totally missing). According to the Kaleidoscope guides, a few of the very early Frost shows (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) exist on VT, the first series being b/w (even though The Beatles segments were recorded on colour VT, they were only seen in b/w at the time). It's unfortunate if someone else has registered with the same name as yours. Best to keep to the one you have now though if it's what you are registered under. Welcome to the site anyway and hopefully it won't be too much of a nuisance to you that you have to use an assumed name! |
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Post by Peter Chadwick on Nov 5, 2006 7:41:56 GMT
Thanks for that, Laurence. From memory, I think there are four (possibly five) different edits of 'Hey Jude' including the ones made for 'Anthology' and the '1' promo video. I'm not sure Frost's outro from 'Hey Jude' on 'Anthology' is from the same show. Lots of VT dropout. Always possible, though.
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Post by Richard Moore on Nov 6, 2006 10:31:18 GMT
It apperas that even David Frost's own company that made some of these progrmmes didn't bother to archive a lot of them themselves!
I wonder however how many of these (certainly later shows) were show in the US and still exist there.
Certainly somewhere to look!
Richard
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Post by Peter Elliott on Nov 6, 2006 10:49:14 GMT
It apperas that even David Frost's own company that made some of these progrmmes didn't bother to archive a lot of them themselves! This indeed appears to be true. John Cleese has often grumbled about Frosts' company wiping all the videotapes of "At Last The 1948 Show" which Frosts' company produced and owned. I'm still surprised and dismayed by how little has survived of Frosts' ITV shows from the era covered in this thread. I'd wondered for a long time whether an early appearance by Deep Purple as musical guests had survived or not. Evidently not.  |
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Post by Martin Ireland on Nov 6, 2006 12:11:04 GMT
I have got South Bank Summer (LWT 1970 colour) which has a lengthy set from Deep Purple. It's presented by Monty Modelyn, of the Thames 'Today' programme.
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