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Post by robkeeley on Apr 21, 2023 14:08:15 GMT
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Post by RWels on Apr 21, 2023 14:10:20 GMT
Nah, it was never wiped, but it had a glitch and they didn't like to let people see it. The cooks didn't want anyone in the kitchen. Until now, that is!
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Post by robkeeley on Apr 21, 2023 14:12:03 GMT
What else can I say, but: hurrah!
What was the glitch? Thanks for the swift response btw!
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Post by John Green on Apr 21, 2023 15:51:58 GMT
"Blackadder Pilot to air"? That's not a twenty minute-er, is it?
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Post by Dan S on Apr 21, 2023 16:06:53 GMT
"Blackadder Pilot to air"? That's not a twenty minute-er, is it? 32 minutes assuming they don't cut anything. The script is the one they used for s1e2 "Born to be King" more or less, and different actors playing Baldrick & the King.
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Post by RWels on Apr 22, 2023 8:29:52 GMT
They're not going to just show the pilot, right? They're spinning it out as much as they can. What else can I say, but: hurrah! What was the glitch? Thanks for the swift response btw! Apparently the original tape had some interference right at the point where we first see Atkinson. Or that's what I've been told. It was not unfixable.
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Post by sonnybh on Apr 22, 2023 9:43:12 GMT
Until I saw a documentary about Blackadder I didn't know this existed.
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Post by Frank Shailes on Apr 22, 2023 20:06:23 GMT
As Marvin might say, "I've seen it. It's rubbish." It does show how polished the eventual first series was when properly mounted.
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Post by RWels on Apr 23, 2023 8:06:39 GMT
As Marvin might say, "I've seen it. It's rubbish." It does show how polished the eventual first series was when properly mounted. Uhm... while you're free to have your own opinion, I think it's fairly safe to say that series 1 is generally considered the least of the four. In interviews its creators more or less admitted this, or at least said, that they made some drastic u-turns. The unused pilot episode isn't more rubbish than series 1, because they re-used its script. Atkinson's character is closer to how he was eventually portrayed in series 2 onwards.
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Post by robkeeley on Apr 23, 2023 15:38:17 GMT
I'm quite fond of the first series - it's sumptuously made and has a real unpredictability about it, before the set gags, catchphrases and exaggerated metaphors set in.
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Post by sonnybh on Apr 23, 2023 20:29:15 GMT
I'm quite fond of the first series - it's sumptuously made and has a real unpredictability about it, before the set gags, catchphrases and exaggerated metaphors set in. The BBC went out of their way to make it like a historical drama, but had to scale things back for the later series.
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Post by Frank Shailes on Apr 25, 2023 16:07:44 GMT
As Marvin might say, "I've seen it. It's rubbish." It does show how polished the eventual first series was when properly mounted. Uhm... while you're free to have your own opinion, I think it's fairly safe to say that series 1 is generally considered the least of the four. In interviews its creators more or less admitted this, or at least said, that they made some drastic u-turns. The unused pilot episode isn't more rubbish than series 1, because they re-used its script. Atkinson's character is closer to how he was eventually portrayed in series 2 onwards. That's nonsense, if they didn't improve things they could've used the pilot as it stood, Loads of things were changed- introducing location footage, changing the historic setting, improving costumes and characterisations. You may diss the first series as it eventually turned out but there's no denying it was better than the cheap amateurish pilot.
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Post by RWels on Apr 25, 2023 18:05:36 GMT
Uhm... while you're free to have your own opinion, I think it's fairly safe to say that series 1 is generally considered the least of the four. In interviews its creators more or less admitted this, or at least said, that they made some drastic u-turns. The unused pilot episode isn't more rubbish than series 1, because they re-used its script. Atkinson's character is closer to how he was eventually portrayed in series 2 onwards. That's nonsense, if they didn't improve things they could've used the pilot as it stood, Loads of things were changed- introducing location footage, changing the historic setting, improving costumes and characterisations. You may diss the first series as it eventually turned out but there's no denying it was better than the cheap amateurish pilot. Thanks for your opinion. I've read comments though from people who thought the pilot's version of Blackadder was closer to what it/he would eventually become - more cunning, as opposed to stupid master with clever servant. The same point could be made about the studio setting as opposed to the location shoot, which the makers later commented wasn't always helping because Atkinson in long shot is not funnier than anyone else. And, again, the entire scenario was re-used with relatively few changes. Since most of its ideas would turn up again either in the regular episode or eventually in series II, it never occurred to me to consider the pilot as that much worse as series 1. Finally, well, they ARE showing it now "as it stands", aren't they? OK, with a few decades delay, but still.
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Post by Frank Shailes on May 7, 2023 19:41:56 GMT
Well of course it is. The same as what you say is your opinion. Isn't that the point of a discussion forum? Matters of taste are subjective. I prefer the more intelligent writing on series 1, you prefer Ben Elton's knob gags.
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Post by RWels on May 8, 2023 15:51:12 GMT
That's nonsense... ...there's no denying it was better than the cheap amateurish pilot. Well of course it is. The same as what you say is your opinion. Isn't that the point of a discussion forum? Matters of taste are subjective. I prefer the more intelligent writing on series 1, you prefer Ben Elton's knob gags. Ah, so it WAS just an opinion then. By the way, Ben Elton didn't write the pilot either, so... relevance? But you insist, then you might want to check "The Making Of Back & Forth AKA Baldrick's Video Diary", 22m08s, where Richard Curtis will inform you that it wasn't Ben Elton who wrote all the knob gags. I'm referencing what its creators are saying here, it's hard to shrug that off as just someone's opinion if they wrote the bloody thing.
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