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Post by John Wall on May 8, 2022 12:48:38 GMT
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Post by mattg on May 8, 2022 13:34:53 GMT
…Well I’d be lying if I said I was in any way surprised. Still, I gave up on Nu Who a couple of episodes into Peter Capaldi’s last season and haven’t been back since so if it works for the masochistically faithful then that’s all that matters I guess. Of course if RTD’s second stint somehow turns out to be a success I and many others might well be drawn back to ‘Who. Doubt that’ll happen though all things considered… Regardless, I fear those elated by RTD’s return to the show might be in for a nasty surprise as Rusty has been loudly applauding pretty much all of his successors’ god awful ‘creative’ decisions these past few years…
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Post by Paul Vanezis on May 9, 2022 9:01:13 GMT
I gave up on Nu Who a couple of episodes into Peter Capaldi’s last season and haven’t been back since so if it works for the masochistically faithful then that’s all that matters I guess. I feel really optimistic about the new series now. Russell T Davies has the ability to find a truth in his stories and hopefully he has something new to say without relying on the confines of the past that, let's be honest have been done to death. I don't know the work of the new guy, but his work is critically acclaimed and there's great enthusiasm from him in interviews I've seen which is infectious. So I'm looking forward to seeing what can be done with it.
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Post by stevehoare61 on May 9, 2022 19:38:12 GMT
Im in agreement with Paul...I think we all knew it was going this way, we've had the woman, now its a black gay guy and Im not too bothered, providing he isnt overtly camp as that can either entertain and people love it or totally alienate the audience. We have to rely on RTDs experience, and hope hes got it right, I did read the series had to change and would be darker, more scarey and veering off onto a new path. Lets just hope it takes us with it. The BBCs socially aware, PC mad obsession must have made it obvious, even to them, that there is no place for it in this show, as it has been recently. We've the no doubt horrendous final episode to get through yet and we arent going to see this new Doctor for possibly a year and a half so Im not working myself up into a tizz. Lets give the boy a chance, we may all end up being very surprised.
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Post by mattg on May 9, 2022 21:39:55 GMT
I gave up on Nu Who a couple of episodes into Peter Capaldi’s last season and haven’t been back since so if it works for the masochistically faithful then that’s all that matters I guess. I feel really optimistic about the new series now. Russell T Davies has the ability to find a truth in his stories and hopefully he has something new to say without relying on the confines of the past that, let's be honest have been done to death. I don't know the work of the new guy, but his work is critically acclaimed and there's great enthusiasm from him in interviews I've seen which is infectious. So I'm looking forward to seeing what can be done with it. Alas I can’t help but recall that farting aliens, ludicrously dysfunctional plots and trite, Whedon-esque dialogue was when Nu Who was supposed to be good! That said and to be fair I did genuinely enjoy seasons 1 to 6 overall. Regardless, if RTD can truly reinvest the show with the escapism, ingenuity and indeed fun it’s since been progressively divested of it’ll surely get much of its audience back. ‘Build it and they will come’. We’ll see. In the meantime, congratulations to the 156,778,189,662,222,386,119,341,993,316,223,878,291,465th (<thanks Chibnall) Doctor!
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Post by Peter Stirling on May 9, 2022 22:36:06 GMT
They seem to take so long to make a Dr.Who series these days and then about 10 episodes later they are exhausted. I think the original Star Trek they use to knock an episode out in about 7 days or less, and original Dr,Who was about 60 mins in the studio I think.
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Post by garygraham on May 10, 2022 2:30:50 GMT
I never really liked the modern reboot, I don't rate Russell T Davies and gave up on Who about 15 years ago. The new Doctor seems to be a talented actor. It's everything else about the show that is the problem.
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Post by Peter Stirling on May 10, 2022 8:00:11 GMT
I never really liked the modern reboot, I don't rate Russell T Davies and gave up on Who about 15 years ago. The new Doctor seems to be a talented actor. It's everything else about the show that is the problem. It has been far too pleased with itself. Apart from it being daleks this! and daleks that! the Dr. Who actor seems to have to spout out issues of whatever is getting the writer/producer's goat at the time instead of telling a story. Let's hope the new Who can hone the rubbish dialogue, otherwise he will get the blame as Jodie has now done.
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Post by Paul Vanezis on May 10, 2022 10:41:11 GMT
The BBCs socially aware, PC mad obsession must have made it obvious, even to them, that there is no place for it in this show, as it has been recently. Now let's not go down that path. People say that if you bring Hitler and the Nazi's into a conversation, you've lost your argument. The modern equivalent of that is the misuse of the word socially aware. I'd like to ban the word socially aware if I could because how you're using it and how many others use it doesn't reflect the true meaning of the word. As for the BBC being PC, well, in a modern society you need to reflect all parts of it and it is exactly the BBC's job to do that. You can call it PC if you like. I think it can also be described as common sense. Paul
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Post by Richard Marple on May 10, 2022 20:21:06 GMT
The BBCs socially aware, PC mad obsession must have made it obvious, even to them, that there is no place for it in this show, as it has been recently. Now let's not go down that path. People say that if you bring Hitler and the Nazi's into a conversation, you've lost your argument. The modern equivalent of that is the misuse of the word socially aware. I'd like to ban the word socially aware if I could because how you're using it and how many others use it doesn't reflect the true meaning of the word. As for the BBC being PC, well, in a modern society you need to reflect all parts of it and it is exactly the BBC's job to do that. You can call it PC if you like. I think it can also be described as common sense. Paul Well said.
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Post by Richard Marple on May 10, 2022 20:27:00 GMT
They seem to take so long to make a Dr.Who series these days and then about 10 episodes later they are exhausted. I think the original Star Trek they use to knock an episode out in about 7 days or less, and original Dr,Who was about 60 mins in the studio I think. Certainly in the last season of the original Star Trek series they were struggling to come up with new ideas for stories, and combined with a reduced budget meant lots of scenes of running through the Enterprise's corridors to pad out stories.
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Post by stevehoare61 on May 10, 2022 21:07:32 GMT
Well we are all entitled to our opinion, that was mine, it isnt yours, but thats freedom of speech .
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Post by Patrick Coles on May 10, 2022 22:17:40 GMT
Well Said Steve
Patrick
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Post by Vaughan Stanger on May 11, 2022 15:37:32 GMT
The BBCs socially aware, PC mad obsession must have made it obvious, even to them, that there is no place for it in this show, as it has been recently. Now let's not go down that path. People say that if you bring Hitler and the Nazi's into a conversation, you've lost your argument. The modern equivalent of that is the misuse of the word socially aware. I'd like to ban the word socially aware if I could because how you're using it and how many others use it doesn't reflect the true meaning of the word. As for the BBC being PC, well, in a modern society you need to reflect all parts of it and it is exactly the BBC's job to do that. You can call it PC if you like. I think it can also be described as common sense. Paul Agreed. And well said.
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