The Feast of Steven Film Recording?

[stevegerald]

I don't know where else to put this, so sorry if this is in the wrong place.

tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Telerecording

"Although it is widely believed that the Christmas Day 1965 episode The Daleks' Master Plan: "The Feast of Steven" was never telerecorded, and lost forever when the master 405 line black and white videotape was erased for reuse, this is not the case. A telerecording of "The Feast of Steven" was made on 3 December 1965 (listed in the existing production notes as telerecording 23/1/5/8196), but never made available for overseas sales as its transmission would have to coincide with Christmas, and overseas television stations would be screening the story any time of the year. The Daleks' Master Plan was instead offered for overseas sales as an eleven-parter."

What? Did I miss some new development? I can't find a thing about this.

I know that is a wiki and anyone can edit it, but I heard that the DW wiki is very strict, so I find it strange that this has gone unnoticed, especially since this is in the Daleks' Masterplan page as well.

[timothyk]

December 3rd 1965 was the studio recording date for 'The Feast of Steven'

The term 'telerecording' simply means 'television recording' - which can be on film or videotape - it's not synonymous with 'film recording' (so basically that whole article is wrong!)

Anyway 'The Feast of Steven' was telerecorded on videotape on 3rd December 1965, but it seems unlikely a film recording was ever made

[stevegerald]

Yeah, I did think the supposed 'telerecording' taking place before the original broadcast was weird, but I'm so used in seeing that term used erroneously (even Wikipedia does that) it didn't even cross my mind that whoever edited it might have actually come across the correct usage of the word, but then applied the incorrect meaning to it.

[Dan Kolb]

Apr 16, 2022 1:52:10 GMT timothyk said:

...it seems unlikely a film recording was ever made

According to Wiped!, VT was requested for film recording of ALL of Master Plan. Even if a film recording was accidently made, it seems probable that Enterprises would have soon spotted that a recording had been made of an episode that they decided not to sell and junked it quickly, since they had no need to keep it. This might be the (only?) case when a film recording was junked prior to the videotape which was wiped in August 1967!

[Paul Vanezis]

Apr 16, 2022 1:05:43 GMT stevegerald said:

I don't know where else to put this, so sorry if this is in the wrong place.

tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Telerecording

"Although it is widely believed that the Christmas Day 1965 episode The Daleks' Master Plan: "The Feast of Steven" was never telerecorded, and lost forever when the master 405 line black and white videotape was erased for reuse, this is not the case. A telerecording of "The Feast of Steven" was made on 3 December 1965 (listed in the existing production notes as telerecording 23/1/5/8196), but never made available for overseas sales as its transmission would have to coincide with Christmas, and overseas television stations would be screening the story any time of the year. The Daleks' Master Plan was instead offered for overseas sales as an eleven-parter."

What? Did I miss some new development? I can't find a thing about this.

I know that is a wiki and anyone can edit it, but I heard that the DW wiki is very strict, so I find it strange that this has gone unnoticed, especially since this is in the Daleks' Masterplan page as well.

The 'telerecording' is the actual edited studio recording, not a film recording. It's the transmission tape of the programme.

Paul

[lousingh]

I thought this was the episode which William Hartnell was given a personal copy. I recall people saying that his family watched it at Christmas sometimes.

[John Wall]

I think that’s an urban myth.

Did William Hartnell have a 16mm sound projector?

[Robbie Moubert]

The BFI held (still hold?) a clip of Dalek Invasion of Earth episode two. I'm not sure what the current thinking on this is but for many years it was said that this is what had been given to Hartnell.

[Ed Brown]

Before someone jumps into this thread, and poo-poo's the idea that the BBC would ever give away filmprints to a show's star, might I mention Billy Bunter of Greyfriars School.

When that 1950s tv show came to an end, in 1961, the BBC presented a 16mm film print of one episode to the star of the series, Gerald Campion. He specifically asked for a print of a particular episode, in which he had played more than one part, and in consequence that print survived in his family's possession when much else was junked.

So there is some supporting evidence that a film reel was sometimes presented by the Corporation to an actor, as a gesture of thanks, on his departure from a show which he had made popular and successful.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bunter_of_Greyfriars_School_(TV_series)


Hartnell was not a television star, odd as that might sound. He was a film and stage actor, who began in films, and who rarely appeared on television until the very end of his career. His first really big film triumph was in 1944, and he had a solid film career from then on, culminating in 'This Sporting Life' in 1963.

Film fans may remember him in 'Carry On Sergeant', 'The Way Ahead', and 'The Yangtsee Incident'. To name but a few.

Many film actors did have the necessary equipment to project a film print at home, for the benefit not just of themselves but also for their families, and for their colleagues in the business.