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Post by David smothers on Dec 7, 2021 16:32:07 GMT
American series.... the Red Skelton Museum is uploading TONS of these full episodes from the 60's, usually has a musical guest on each episode, Here's one that was filmed in London featuring the Rolling Stones, November 10, 1964.
Septmeber 23, 1969 featuring Iron Butterfly:
October 5, 1965 featuring Peter and Gordon:
September 5, 1967 featuring Johnny Rivers:
December 9, 1969 featuring Shirley Bassey:
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Post by petercheck on Dec 7, 2021 18:16:52 GMT
Great news! I really hope they upload the 1st February 1966 episode featuring The Hollies (performing 'Iām Alive' and 'Look Through Any Window').
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Post by markboulton on Dec 8, 2021 17:31:03 GMT
Who thought this was something to do with Zippy & George for half a second?
... nope, just me then š
Seriously though, great performances and in stunning quality. Even the VT slates are high-tech for the time!
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Post by David smothers on Dec 9, 2021 2:45:22 GMT
Billy J. Kramer and the Dakotas, live as well! This makes me wonder why Billy J. Kramer wans't bigger than he was, he was certainly more handsome than any of the Beatles, and a better singer, IMO.
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Post by petercheck on Dec 9, 2021 9:16:59 GMT
I really like Billy J. Kramer, but to me he had a lot in common with Adam Faith's recordings with The Roulettes: a handsome but mediocre singer with great songs and a fabulous backing band.
This episode features The Animals, surprisingly still wearing matching dark suits in the Dave Rowberry era:
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Post by Colin Anderton on Dec 9, 2021 12:47:36 GMT
Billy J. Kramer and the Dakotas, live as well! This makes me wonder why Billy J. Kramer wans't bigger than he was, he was certainly more handsome than any of the Beatles, and a better singer, IMO. I know we all see and hear life from a different point of view, but honestly David - how can anyone possibly say that Billy J. Kramer was a better singer than the Beatles? I liked him as well, but a good singer? Really? Listen to any of his hit records, and you will hear that his best friend was double-tracking. This is particularly obvious on "Do You Want To Know A Secret?" The first few lines are the only part of his vocal that isn't double-tracked - and the limitations of his singing voice are clearly exposed! And this would have been selected as the best take! And on live performances, I'm afraid he was always limited by being clearly nervous. Like I say, I did like his records - but let's not get carried away....
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Post by petercheck on Dec 9, 2021 13:40:24 GMT
A better singer than Ringo maybe? Much as I love The Beatles (particularly up to 1966), I've never had a problem with people having their own musical preferences - David Smothers' opinion is as valid as anyone elses. When discussing Glam Rock, I cause upsets by insisting that Mud were a better band than Roxy Music, and that Gary Glitter's 1972-1974 hits were more consistently great than David Bowie's. As I said, each to their own!
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Post by Colin Anderton on Dec 9, 2021 15:47:49 GMT
A better singer than Ringo maybe? Much as I love The Beatles (particularly up to 1966), I've never had a problem with people having their own musical preferences - David Smothers' opinion is as valid as anyone elses. When discussing Glam Rock, I cause upsets by insisting that Mud were a better band than Roxy Music, and that Gary Glitter's 1972-1974 hits were more consistently great than David Bowie's. As I said, each to their own! Of course, Peter, I have no problem with people having their own opinions. But I'm just puzzled how anyone could say that Billy J had a good singing voice. George Martin has stated that Billy's voice needed a little help in the studio. Is it possible that someone may think Oprah Winfrey is better looking than Marilyn Monroe? It's possible there's someone somewhere, but I think most of us would raise an eyebrow, wondering whether they see the same image as we do.
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Post by Richard Marple on Dec 9, 2021 21:45:06 GMT
Quite a few Merseybeat era groups were hot properties for a few years, but seemed to struggle once the music scene started to change & the more innovative acts became more experimental.
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Post by petercheck on Dec 9, 2021 22:05:06 GMT
Quite a few Merseybeat era groups were hot properties for a few years, but seemed to struggle once the music scene started to change & the more innovative acts became more experimental. It is curious that the Manchester and London Beat Groups - The Hollies, Herman's Hermits, The Dave Clark Five, The Tremeloes - were still having hits into the next decade, while The Searchers, Gerry and The Pacemakers, Billy J. Kramer, The Swinging Blue Jeans, The Merseybeats/The Merseys ALL stopped having hits by 1965/1966.
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Post by David smothers on Dec 10, 2021 5:02:47 GMT
A better singer than Ringo maybe? Much as I love The Beatles (particularly up to 1966), I've never had a problem with people having their own musical preferences - David Smothers' opinion is as valid as anyone elses. When discussing Glam Rock, I cause upsets by insisting that Mud were a better band than Roxy Music, and that Gary Glitter's 1972-1974 hits were more consistently great than David Bowie's. As I said, each to their own! Yeah, I'm just not a huge Beatles fan... love their songwriting, but their records not so much. the one I really LOVE is "The Long And Winding Road", and that is mainly because it sounds like a Bee Gees song. Ironically, I like their solo efforts from the 70's better.
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Dec 11, 2021 4:53:16 GMT
Oh for the love of God stop...
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Post by markboulton on Dec 11, 2021 18:45:29 GMT
To change the subject a little, do the sung intros on these shows remind anybody of Victor Lewis-Smith's shows?!? š
...no, just me again!
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Post by markboulton on Dec 11, 2021 18:51:47 GMT
A commenter on YT says none of these appeared to be on the Time-Life DVD set of the series.
So does that mean they were, until the RSM uploaded them, considered missing?
If so, I wonder how they found them? Although admittedly, these appear to be U-Matic dubs, so I wonder if these were private copies made in the early 70s by Skelton's agent or a friend at the studios, and the 2"s were subsequently lost.
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Post by Greg Glenn on Dec 25, 2021 8:24:48 GMT
Pallets of original 2" video tape reels and 16mm kinescopes arriving at the Skelton museum in Indiana. An amazing haul. youtu.be/CoSfgezHZGg
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