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Post by petercheck on Aug 24, 2021 17:06:03 GMT
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Kev Hunter
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The only difference between a rut and a groove is the depth
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Post by Kev Hunter on Aug 24, 2021 17:53:11 GMT
Sad news indeed.. I love this interview with Charlie from 1986, especially his closing words.. RIP Charlie.
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Post by richardwoods on Aug 25, 2021 9:10:10 GMT
Absolutely gutted.
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Post by petercheck on Aug 25, 2021 16:32:59 GMT
Ditto! Usually I don't let celebrity deaths get to me, but somehow this has really shaken me up. I have lots of work to do, but I just HAD to spend a few hours rambling in the countryside today (stopping for a cold pint midway). As The Rolling Stones said on 1989's Steel Wheels album, "Sad, Sad, Sad"! |
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Post by richardwoods on Aug 25, 2021 20:43:43 GMT
Interesting you mention Steel Wheels. We saw the Stones on that tour, the final one with Bill Wyman & again a couple of years later on the Voodoo Lounge tour, and it was absolutely clear what a vital, anchoring part of the group Charlie was both musically & in temperament and the respect he was held in by the band. In a way the importance of the part he played in that role increased with Bill’s departure. Totally irreplaceable, I can only imagine how the rest of the group are feeling. Genuinely things will never be the same again.
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Post by petercheck on Aug 25, 2021 20:58:30 GMT
Interesting you mention Steel Wheels. We saw the Stones on that tour, the final one with Bill Wyman & again a couple of years later on the Voodoo Lounge tour, and it was absolutely clear what a vital, anchoring part of the group Charlie was both musically & in temperament and the respect he was held in by the band. In a way the importance of the part he played in that role increased with Bill’s departure. Totally irreplaceable, I can only imagine how the rest of the group are feeling. Genuinely things will never be the same again. I was also at that final Wembley Stadium show to feature Bill in the band (though no-one knew that at the time), as well as an earlier Wembley show on the same 1990 tour - I tried to get a ticket to see them in 1982 (when I was 19) but they sold out too quick! But The Rolling Stones, particularly the Decca years, have been a part of my DNA since my very earliest memories, probably more so than even The Beatles. |
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Post by richardwoods on Aug 26, 2021 14:47:10 GMT
Yeah, I feel just the same. They always had that edge that The Beatles didn’t, and the music was & is still just brilliant. My favourite period was from Beggars Banquet to Goats Head Soup and I think Sticky Fingers is a work of genius.
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Aug 31, 2021 19:50:22 GMT
Yeah, I feel just the same. They always had that edge that The Beatles didn’t, and the music was & is still just brilliant. My favourite period was from Beggars Banquet to Goats Head Soup and I think Sticky Fingers is a work of genius. Maybe a slightly uneven playing field considering they've had 51 more years of being the Rolling Stones than The Beatles have had being The Beatles. |
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Post by petercheck on Aug 31, 2021 20:29:46 GMT
Yeah, I feel just the same. They always had that edge that The Beatles didn’t, and the music was & is still just brilliant. My favourite period was from Beggars Banquet to Goats Head Soup and I think Sticky Fingers is a work of genius. Maybe a slightly uneven playing field considering they've had 51 more years of being the Rolling Stones than The Beatles have had being The Beatles. Perhaps, but my favourite Rolling Stones years are 1963-1967 when Brian Jones was fully involved/still a member ('Between The Buttons' rivals 'Revolver' and The Hollies' 'Evolution' as my all time favourite album). |
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Post by stephenconnett on Sept 1, 2021 16:40:25 GMT
It's a perculiar twist of fate that the original surviving, and currently engaged in music, members of the Beatles are the bass player and the drummer while the Stones have the Singer and guitarist(s). That's quite a supergroup for a tribute concert 😉
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Post by richardwoods on Sept 1, 2021 19:03:49 GMT
Ringo wouldn’t be a bad bet would he? Personally I’d mend fences with Bill Wyman. He wants to come back and despite his age is fit & well. It would also provide some much needs continuity and help a different drummer bed in.
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Sept 2, 2021 0:16:57 GMT
Ringo wouldn’t be a bad bet would he? Personally I’d mend fences with Bill Wyman. He wants to come back and despite his age is fit & well. It would also provide some much needs continuity and help a different drummer bed in. In 18 months or so Bill Wyman will be as long out of the Stones than he was in them. I think the continuity lies with the current bass player in all fairness. |
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Post by petercheck on Sept 2, 2021 6:11:19 GMT
Bill doesn't want to join, and I don't blame him. Every member (and ex-member) has had serious health issues in recent years, and now would be a good time for them to stop.
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Post by richardwoods on Sept 2, 2021 6:44:02 GMT
Ringo wouldn’t be a bad bet would he? Personally I’d mend fences with Bill Wyman. He wants to come back and despite his age is fit & well. It would also provide some much needs continuity and help a different drummer bed in. In 18 months or so Bill Wyman will be as long out of the Stones than he was in them. I think the continuity lies with the current bass player in all fairness. True enough but it’s fair to say that when he was in the band, Bill shared the anchor role to an extent with Charlie Watts, Darryl Jones doesn’t even get, (or perhaps want), a band “apprenticeship” credit like Ronnie W had for a long time, (ironically when Bill left IIRC he became a full member), so is probably viewed as a long term supporting musician. It’s all speculation, only they really know. |
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Post by richardwoods on Sept 2, 2021 6:53:31 GMT
Bill doesn't want to join, and I don't blame him. Every member (and ex-member) has had serious health issues in recent years, and now would be a good time for them to stop. A few years ago before the O2 concert Bill was quoted as saying that had changed his mind & wanted to rejoin the band & was snubbed by M & K & just given 1 song to perform at the gig along with Mick Taylor. You are probably right that it would be a good time to stop. If previous pronouncements over the years are anything to go by however, while Keith has a breath in his body the Stones will continue, but again only they know really it’s all speculation. If you remember, when Bill “retired” there was comment allegedly from the band that they would “put Ronnie Wood on Bass & get Mick Taylor back”. An obvious non starter but if the quote is true it does reflect a possible tendency to look to former members in time of crisis. |
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