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Post by stevej on Apr 19, 2021 13:09:56 GMT
Well worth exploring some of the music performances on this channel, with new additions almost daily. In fact it's been keeping me entertained for several evenings now. There's a lot of material that's not been used on the official Sullivan dvd compilations released by SOFA Entertainment, which have been a bit short on content given the massive size of the archive. A couple of my highlights so far have been The Mamas and The Papas 'Twelve Thirty' - a great song I'd never heard before:
or the same group's rather distracted 1967 performance of 'California Dreaming' - with added fruit content:
There are also loads of great motown and soul performances but I think my hands-down favourite so far has to be this absolute eyeful from the great Joe Cocker doing 'Feelin' Alright'.
On an technical (anorak) note, I read that the 'Ed Sullivan Theater' as that CBS studio became known, was equipped in the late 60s with Marconi MkVII cameras, as used extensively by both BBC and ITV in the early days of colour. That came as something of a surprise (if it's true) as I'd assumed US television would have pretty much exclusively used American-built RCA kit.
Steve
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Post by nicadare on Apr 19, 2021 15:24:20 GMT
"On an technical (anorak) note, I read that the 'Ed Sullivan Theater' as that CBS studio became known, was equipped in the late 60s with Marconi MkVII cameras, as used extensively by both BBC and ITV in the early days of colour. That came as something of a surprise (if it's true) as I'd assumed US television would have pretty much exclusively used American-built RCA kit". Steve
I've always wondered why the quality of the Ed Sullivan shows were so good assuming they were NTSC recordings, the colours can be a bit garish but considering their age the recordings look in excellent condition.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Apr 20, 2021 10:54:51 GMT
On an technical (anorak) note, I read that the 'Ed Sullivan Theater' as that CBS studio became known, was equipped in the late 60s with Marconi MkVII cameras, as used extensively by both BBC and ITV in the early days of colour. That came as something of a surprise (if it's true) as I'd assumed US television would have pretty much exclusively used American-built RCA kit. Steve RCA was integrated with the NBC network...a rival to CBS so they probably didn't want to be entangled in equipment contracts with them. CBS were also not too happy with RCA's NTSC system but obviously in the end had to go along with the roll out to be competitive. The early Ed Sullivan color cameras were probably the Philips PC60 (branded Norelco in the US) These were a revolution over the first generation (nicknamed coffin cameras because of their size) RCA cameras in both reliability and performance, for this reason as well, rival networks ABC and CBS probably never used them. However the PC60 also had a limited life. Marconi versions of the RCA coffin camera were also used in the UK. Then ATV bought Philips PC60s followed by EMI 2001s, there was never enough interest in for EMI to produce an NTSC version and EMI had fingers in too many other pies anyway.The PC60 was known for its rich colour rendition which could be turned garish by some enthusiastic '60s' lighting and set designs However the more conservative rendering EMI 2001 proved a durable workhorse in British TV lasting nearly 2 decades in some cases. |
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Post by stevej on Apr 20, 2021 15:23:27 GMT
That's very interesting Peter, thanks for the insight. I know the earlier RCA/Marconi 'coffin' cameras had image orthicon tubes giving the characteristic black halo around bright objects, which always looks a bit odd on colour programmes. Sequinned costumes were a bit of a nightmare! The florid colour on the Ed Sullivan Shows isn't at all natural but really suits the costumes and set designs of the flower power era.
I wonder what colour cameras ATV used for the experimental colour Palladium show recently shown on Talking Pictures?
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Post by Peter Stirling on Apr 20, 2021 20:01:35 GMT
That's very interesting Peter, thanks for the insight. I know the earlier RCA/Marconi 'coffin' cameras had image orthicon tubes giving the characteristic black halo around bright objects, which always looks a bit odd on colour programmes. Sequinned costumes were a bit of a nightmare! The florid colour on the Ed Sullivan Shows isn't at all natural but really suits the costumes and set designs of the flower power era.
I wonder what colour cameras ATV used for the experimental colour Palladium show recently shown on Talking Pictures?
Steve They were Marconi BD448s which were the RCA clones I think. Because the UK was not sure what colour system it was going to use at the time they could be switched to 405 lines NTSC. They were used on The Hippodrome show as 525 line NTSC but because they required so much light, the B/W cameras also filming the show in 405 lines had to be fitted with thick neutral density filters. They were better served in recorded shows (like Hippodrome) where foibles could be dealt with, if you look at the Palladium show near the beginning(which was live) they quickly cut from a side view where that camera 'crashes'.In the States it was similar with the RCA versions, the Barbra Streisand special was shot like a film in the end as they were down to one working camera. They didn't belong to ATV but a company of ex ATV engineers called Intertel Colour VTR. ATV got their own PC60s (with the revolutionary plumbicon tubes) in the summer of 66 and used them to record a pre match interview with the World Cup squad (which sadly does not appear to exist anymore) and then the London Palladium shows bound for the US. Ed Sullivan Show. Probably Norelco PC60s? before Marconi VII Probably Marconi BD448s? (sometimes shading in the corners due to the lens turret) |
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Post by David smothers on Jun 12, 2021 13:12:42 GMT
That channel has certainly been wonderful. Ed Sullivan's color footage is of really great quality, it's such a pleasure to watch. I'm waiting with hopes they upload Melba Moore's performace of "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother".
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Post by Peter Stirling on Jun 12, 2021 13:41:27 GMT
That channel has certainly been wonderful. Ed Sullivan's color footage is of really great quality, it's such a pleasure to watch. I'm waiting with hopes they upload Melba Moore's performace of "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother". Yes I thought it an amazing complete showcase of an amazing period of time. Its probably had restoration but obviously the quality was there in the first place to buff it up and make it shine. |
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Post by David smothers on Jun 12, 2021 19:06:29 GMT
Isn't this just sublime?
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Post by stevej on Jun 14, 2021 7:35:37 GMT
Absolutely agree David- wonderful performance and the subtle choreography add an extra layer of visual interest. Also the technical quality of the recording is- once again- stunning.
All of the Nancy & Lee sessions were superb, but Lee Hazelwood also recorded some great versions of his famous duets on his 'Love & Other Crimes' Swedish tv special in 1968 with Siw Malmqvist:
'You've Lost That Loving Feeling' (original with Nancy Sinatra):
'Sleep In The Grass' (original with Ann Margret):
'Summer Wine' (original with Nancy Sinatra):
I really wish this tv special was available on dvd!
Steve PS- How do you insert Youtube preview windows rather than just the links?
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Post by Nathan Dickel on Jul 10, 2021 4:58:08 GMT
You'd think a professional company would've figured out how to upload VT material in 50 or 60p......
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Post by David smothers on Sept 6, 2021 3:20:43 GMT
You'd think a professional company would've figured out how to upload VT material in 50 or 60p...... If your'e referring to the Ed Sullivan clips, they were never shot on video tape, they were shot on film, that's why they look so good. |
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Post by David smothers on Sept 6, 2021 3:22:39 GMT
Tour de force performace by Karen Wyman just added.. and they uploaded it in 1080P as well!
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Post by bobbooker on Sept 6, 2021 21:37:48 GMT
You'd think a professional company would've figured out how to upload VT material in 50 or 60p...... If your'e referring to the Ed Sullivan clips, they were never shot on video tape, they were shot on film, that's why they look so good. I'm sorry but that is NOT the case. It is the usual VIDEO multi-camera studio set up for a weekly variety show. |
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Post by stevej on Sept 10, 2021 18:52:45 GMT
Another really excellent peformance; the Association performing a (semi) live version of 'Along Comes Mary' in 1968. Very different to the familiar recorded version from 1966- but different in a good way...
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Post by Kev Hunter on Sept 11, 2021 8:18:43 GMT
That's very good.. sounds even more like The Strawberry Alarm Clock than the single version does.
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