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Post by Stephen Byers on Feb 28, 2021 19:29:42 GMT
The Beeb has just finished airing what it has of this series. Its widely known that episode 9 The Secret Rocket Trials is still missing, but this time round the Beeb refused to air episode 8.
So what's un-PC about episode 8 The Potarneyland Election 1963-03-15. Or have the Beeb socially aware people got an objection about making fun of the inhabitants of a completely fictional foreign country?
Luckily there is a MP3 128kbps version out there from a previous R7 / R4X airing.
But FGS - they'll be issuing listener warnings before the Navy Lark soon like they have with Disney's Muppets, Ronnie Barker's Porridge, and Dad's Army.
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Post by Stuart Monk on Mar 1, 2021 12:15:07 GMT
Never really sure what "socially aware" means, it generally seems to be used when someone's opinion is different to yours, but while over-exaggerated 'foreign' accents may have been hilarious in the 50s and 60s they just sound crass to me in 2021.
If it's a short section of a programme like in The Goon Show it might be OK with a warning but the 'accent' is quite prevalent in this episode of TV Lark.
As you say, it's around for anyone who wants to get a complete set (almost!) and can probably still be bought legitimately through Audible or somebody.
Should the BBC risk stories being created in the media about people taking offense at a particular show and then being policed even more heavily about which series they can broadcast?
I often wonder what the listener profile is for 4 Extra - probably not many people from the equivalent of Potarneyland, but it's very easy to find someone who's deeply offended when you tell them what their TV Licence is paying for. Chris Morris built his career on that very point.
It's not the BBC's duty to broadcast everything they have in their archives, although I'd like them to open up the online archive more!
I also wonder if they feel compelled to provide a warning of offensive language that this will mean they stop the annoying habit on iplayer of missing the opening of some programmes - I can only hope.
Stuart
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Post by Stephen Byers on Mar 1, 2021 14:33:53 GMT
And "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" will never see the light of day again. Luckily copies are in circulation. But Potarneyland features in quite a few Navy Larks, there was even a recovered 'missing episode' issued on an Audible box set last year. Luckily this episode was released to the public before it was declared non-PC. I wonder how many of the BBC archives contain non-PC material. Either there will be a massive editing purge to chop out those clips; or there will be a massive 'book burning' of non-PC material. This does not bode well for their Archives, but what's the point of keeping un-PC material that will never be aired again due to imagined or deliberately misinterpreted 'offensive' content?
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Post by RWels on Mar 1, 2021 14:50:41 GMT
And "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" will never see the light of day again. Luckily copies are in circulation. But Potarneyland features in quite a few Navy Larks, there was even a recovered 'missing episode' issued on an Audible box set last year. Luckily this episode was released to the public before it was declared non-PC. I wonder how many of the BBC archives contain non-PC material. Either there will be a massive editing purge to chop out those clips; or there will be a massive 'book burning' of non-PC material. This does not bode well for their Archives, but what's the point of keeping un-PC material that will never be aired again due to imagined or deliberately misinterpreted 'offensive' content? If old stuff isn't aired it's automatically because of the socially aware PC brigade then? I wish you'd give it a rest. Like I said elsewhere, this is no different than what mary whitehouse used to do, except that the subjects have changed. If you watch interviews with her (someone linked to an example), the attitude is exactly the same. |
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Post by Richard Marple on Mar 1, 2021 22:13:34 GMT
And "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" will never see the light of day again. Luckily copies are in circulation. But Potarneyland features in quite a few Navy Larks, there was even a recovered 'missing episode' issued on an Audible box set last year. Luckily this episode was released to the public before it was declared non-PC. I wonder how many of the BBC archives contain non-PC material. Either there will be a massive editing purge to chop out those clips; or there will be a massive 'book burning' of non-PC material. This does not bode well for their Archives, but what's the point of keeping un-PC material that will never be aired again due to imagined or deliberately misinterpreted 'offensive' content? If old stuff isn't aired it's automatically because of the socially aware PC brigade then? I wish you'd give it a rest. Like I said elsewhere, this is no different than what mary whitehouse used to do, except that the subjects have changed. If you watch interviews with her (someone linked to an example), the attitude is exactly the same. Yes that's a fact lost on the Right Wing tabloid zombie brigade. |
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Post by RWels on Mar 1, 2021 23:09:48 GMT
I wouldn't want to call Stephen anything like that, but at times it's all a bit predictable.
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Post by richardwoods on Mar 2, 2021 9:03:37 GMT
I wouldn't want to call Stephen anything like that, but at times it's all a bit predictable. Pleased to hear it! 😂😂😂 |
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Post by John Green on Mar 2, 2021 16:00:24 GMT
If old stuff isn't aired it's automatically because of the socially aware PC brigade then? I wish you'd give it a rest. Like I said elsewhere, this is no different than what mary whitehouse used to do, except that the subjects have changed. If you watch interviews with her (someone linked to an example), the attitude is exactly the same. Yes that's a fact lost on the Right Wing tabloid zombie brigade. I know that the popularity of extreme porn, strangulation, etc. has caused a few feminists on Mumsnet to reconsider who they were in bed with in the 60s, and whether Mrs.W. had a point. The later anti-porn feminism was in tune with conservative thought, uneasy as they might have been about that, |
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Post by Richard Marple on Mar 2, 2021 22:13:56 GMT
Yes that's a fact lost on the Right Wing tabloid zombie brigade. I know that the popularity of extreme porn, strangulation, etc. has caused a few feminists on Mumsnet to reconsider who they were in bed with in the 60s, and weather Mrs.W. had a point. The later anti-porn feminism was in tune with conservative thought, uneasy as they might have been about that, Margaret Attwood had this sort of unholy alliance in mind when writing the HandMaiden's Tale. |
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Post by John Green on Mar 2, 2021 23:28:48 GMT
M.Attwood isn't Mumsnet's favourite writer anymore, at least on the feminist boards. She's considered a Handmaiden.
While hierarchies of angels and demons can seem fixed, they tend to shift over time.
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Post by richardwoods on Mar 3, 2021 7:14:21 GMT
Do you spend a lot of time on Mumsnet John?
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