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Post by Robert Lia on Feb 19, 2021 22:30:33 GMT
The oldest American Science Fiction show that I know of that had science fiction in historical stories had to be ABC-TV's "The Time Tunnel", CBS-TV Lost in Space had "Visit to a Hostile Planet" in 1968 and ABC-TV's "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" has one episode set during the revolutionary war right at the end of the series.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 19, 2021 22:46:28 GMT
The oldest American Science Fiction show that I know of that had science fiction in historical stories had to be ABC-TV's "The Time Tunnel", CBS-TV Lost in Space had "Visit to a Hostile Planet" in 1968 and ABC-TV's "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" has one episode set during the revolutionary war right at the end of the series. Post 1965....But probably not influenced by DW. |
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Post by Robert Lia on Feb 19, 2021 22:52:45 GMT
and I forgot one more that was initially made in black and white on CBS TV "The Wild Wild West" had science fiction elements in it from the start!
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Post by John Wall on Feb 19, 2021 23:11:30 GMT
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Post by Robert Lia on Feb 19, 2021 23:25:29 GMT
Now I have no idea when it aired in the United Kingdom, if it aired there at all.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 19, 2021 23:37:26 GMT
Now I have no idea when it aired in the United Kingdom, if it aired there at all. I don’t know about that but it started in the US in September 1965 but was in development for a year or more before that. It’s possible that Dennis Spooner was in touch with folks in the US and realised that he could put a twist into an otherwise standard historical. |
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Post by Robert Lia on Feb 19, 2021 23:45:35 GMT
The pilot episode was filmed in December 1964 to give you an idea of how far back the series goes.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Feb 20, 2021 0:35:05 GMT
There’s a 1940s sci fi film - can’t recall the name - that’s been on TPTV where the characters get transported back to, iirc, Elizabethan times in a spherical time machine but it’s more historical than pseudo historical. That was called 'Time Flies'.. I thought a most enjoyable find for TPTV -------------------- The Wild Wild West did not start transmissions in the UK until 1968. |
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Post by John Green on Feb 20, 2021 1:06:20 GMT
There’s a 1940s sci fi film - can’t recall the name - that’s been on TPTV where the characters get transported back to, iirc, Elizabethan times in a spherical time machine but it’s more historical than pseudo historical. That was called 'Time Flies'.. I thought a most enjoyable find for TPTV. I enoyed this film, which has some Whoish elements: A time-sphere they travel in. The companions get separated. One of them gambles with good Queen Bess. Someone impersonates a famous historical personage. Trouble arises from 'prophecies' about The Great Fire of London. (Think those are all in Time Flies). I've always liked to think that there might be inspiration for DW in the DC comic Rip Hunter...Time Master: Rip Hunter is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics. Created by writer Jack Miller and artist Ruben Moreira, the character first appeared in Showcase #20 (May 1959). Following three more appearances in Showcase (#21, 25, 26), Rip Hunter was given his own series which ran for 29 issues (1961–65). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rip_Hunter (Rip may have been a 'superhero', but he didn't have any super powers). I hadn't realised that Rip so often encountered aliens, monsters, and dinosaurs (in modernish eras in which they should not exist), though I seem to remember that sometimes the Time Sphere would get nicked or go missing. The cover of issue 13 (April 1963) is relatively restrained, with Marco Polo denouncing our time-travelling chums to Kublai Khan. dc.fandom.com/wiki/Rip_Hunter/CoversAdded: Just spotted that Rip had a tiff with Elizabeth I in issue 24 (Feb.1965) ! Oh, and 'The Robot Rulers of 2165' (Aug.1965). dc.fandom.com/wiki/Rip_Hunter/Covers?file=Rip_Hunter_27.jpg "No...Please...Don't turn Rip into a robot, like the others!". Surely it's time for a Doctor Who-Rip Hunter crossover? |
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Post by RWels on Feb 20, 2021 9:44:14 GMT
and I forgot one more that was initially made in black and white on CBS TV "The Wild Wild West" had science fiction elements in it from the start! Hadn't thought of that. I did consider the time tunnel, but both are 1965 onwards. However, Jules Verne stories would almost fit the question now that they have become historical. Cartoons, now there might also be something. Mr Peabody or maybe others too. |
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Post by Vaughan Stanger on Feb 20, 2021 10:10:16 GMT
We should get Paul Vanezis to film it. (Yes, I do mean film.) |
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Post by John Wall on Feb 20, 2021 11:04:26 GMT
We should get Paul Vanezis to film it. (Yes, I do mean film.) Whether I should admit it, or not, I don’t know but the question that started this thread came to me in the shower - where I do some good thinking! There are certainly some promising antecedents for Time Meddler, it’s just a pity that Dennis isn’t around to ask. |
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