BBC TV Catalogue Online

[andrew martin]

Paul02 said:

An episode of Madame Bovary is also listed:

First Love 02/05/1964

That one has been held in the archive for quite some time - something over ten years I think, but it may not have been in early Kaleidoscope guides...

[andrew martin]

Paul02 said:

The following (probably very partial) Not Only..But Also.. episodes are listed:

3/4/65
22/1/66
29/1/66
5/2/66
12/2/66

3/4/65, 29/1/66 and 12/2/66 have not holdings, but are probably just there for reference (or wishful thinking that they'll turn up). An off-air soundtrack from a collector is held for 22/1/66 and 5/2/66

[andrew martin]

Paul02 said:

Thirteen Against Fate- The Lodger (19/06/1966) is listed.

Only reel 2 (or 2) of a 16mm telerecording exists - I think this may have been one of the programmes that turned up during a stock check in the early 90s (as did the end of "A for Andromeda" #7).

[andrew martin]

Paul02 said:

And, without qualification, these episodes of Till Death Us Do Part are listed:

09.01.67 I Can Give It Up Any Time I Like
16.01.67 The Bulldog Breed
23.01.67 Caviare On The Dole
30.01.67 A Woman's Place Is In The Home!
13.02.67 In Sickness And In Health...
20.02.67 State Visit
27.02.67 Alf's Dilemma (Cleaning Up TV)
19.01.68 Monopoly
26.01.68 The Funeral
02.02.68 Football
09.02.68 The Puppy (listed as The Dog)
16.02.68 Aunt Maud

The first five of those exists as copies of a collector's off-air soundtrack recordings. "State Visit" and "Alf's Dilemma" exist both as soundtracks and partial telerecordings are also held (the first from an insert in "Talkback", the second from a collector). "Monopoly", "The Funeral", "Football", "The Dog" and "Aunt Maud" all exist as sound recordings from the same source, there is also a clip from "Aunt Maud" in "Late Night Line-Up" from 15/9/72 (a feature on Johnny Speight" which has a number of "Till Death" clips, some possibly from other missing episodes...

[andrew martin]

Paul02 said:

Which of these Bachelor Father episodes exists :

First Of The Many 01/10/70
Birthday Boys 15/10/70

?

"Birthday Boys" exists - returned from Asia TV in Hong Kong (as was "Tomb of the Cybermen" at around the same time).

[andrew martin]

Paul02 said:

Do the episodes of Marty from 20/5/68 and 23/12/68 exist ?

20/5/68 - only a mute film sequence is held, a collector has the soundtrack for the episode.
23/12/68 - this exists complete as a 16mm telerecording - this may be the episode that was misfiled under another episode until a year or two ago.

[andrew martin]

Paul02 said:

And what about Not in Front of the Children- The Word 08.09.67 ?

This was another programme returned from Barbados in 1996.

[andrew martin]

Paul02 said:

The catalogue contains these episodes of The Likely Lads:

Chance of a Lifetime 13/1/65
Faraway Places (sic) 14/7/65
Friends and Neighbours 11/6/66
Brief Encounter 25/6/66
The Razor's Edge 2/7/66
Anchors Aweigh 9/7/66

!

These are all held as copies of off-air soundtracks from a collector - recovered as with the "Till Death"s during the Treasure Hunt campaign a few years ago.

[Deleted]

I wonder if Andrew Martin can provide a few answers to queries i've got regarding TOTP on Infax?

There are a several editions listed for no apparent reason; most of the early entries for this series (i.e. up to 1970 or so) are there because they are the surviving ones (or have clips / inserts surviving from them). Can you say why the following may be listed though? 12/11/64, 29/7/65, 19/8/65, 30/9/65, 30/6/66, 30/3/67, 18/7/68,29/8/68, 23/7/70 and 21/10/71. As far as is known, there is nothing surviving from these shows. Maybe i'm missing some glaring reason for them being listed?

My other question relates to Late Night Line Up. There are listed 390 editions (which, by a roundabout route) can be called up individually. Do all these listed exist either whole or in part or is it again a case of random missing / non-missing editions being listed alongside each other for no particular reason? Which of the late editions are retained on colour VT?

Any help gratefully appreciated, Andrew.

[andrew martin]

laurencepiper said:

I wonder if Andrew Martin can provide a few answers to queries i've got regarding TOTP on Infax?

There are a several editions listed for no apparent reason; most of the early entries for this series (i.e. up to 1970 or so) are there because they are the surviving ones (or have clips / inserts surviving from them). Can you say why the following may be listed though? 12/11/64, 29/7/65, 19/8/65, 30/9/65, 30/6/66, 30/3/67, 18/7/68,29/8/68, 23/7/70 and 21/10/71. As far as is known, there is nothing surviving from these shows. Maybe i'm missing some glaring reason for them being listed?

My other question relates to Late Night Line Up. There are listed 390 editions (which, by a roundabout route) can be called up individually. Do all these listed exist either whole or in part or is it again a case of random missing / non-missing editions being listed alongside each other for no particular reason? Which of the late editions are retained on colour VT?

Any help gratefully appreciated, Andrew.

Top of the Pops
12/11/64 - an off-air soundtrack recording is held
29/07/65 - nothing for this edition (one or two days' complete transmissions in the 60s were added some years ago, experimentally, to see what problems it would cause - this day is one of them)
19/08/65 - no holdings, I don't know why this one was added.
30/09/65 - this is an insert of Peter Paul and Mary performing "Early Morning Rain", recorded 20/09/65 on the set of "Tonight in Person" for use in TOTP, it was only discovered a year or so ago on a tape containing most of their two editions of TIP (tx 4/10/65 and 1/1/66).
30/06/66 - nothing for this day, not known why this entry is on Infax.
30/03/67 - poor quality VHS of Jimi Hendrix Experience doing "Purple Haze" - ex ZDF ultimately.
18/07/68 - Richard Harris "Macarthur Park" promo - this has been held for ages but the tx date was only added recently.
29/08/68 - this is an old record of junked magnetic tracks for this edition - no picture elements held, I've no idea when the mag tracks were junked, but it wasn't recently.
23/07/70 - another old record, a promo of "Song of Joy" by Miguel Rios. Again, no idea when it was junked other than not recently.
21/10/71 - Rod Stewart "Maggie May" insert (a copy for ZDF, though the BBC seems to have had it for quite some time). Again this was only recently tracked down to a tx date.

LATE NIGHT LINE-UP
Broadly speaking these do exist if they are logged on Infax - at some point I will probably go through them to list the precise holdings, at the moment you will appreciate that nearly 400 editions would take some time to do! They are a mixture of film recordings (complete and inserts), film items, and some VT - there are a very few complete VT programmes from very late on, including the last one. As a rough guide, if the programme number is LPR followed by a 1, 2, 4 or 9, then there are VT holdings, otherwise they are film holdings (most often LPR followed by a 5). That's not foolproof though (different 'dummy' programme numbers were used when film and tape were logged on separate systems many years ago, when the systems were combined, of there was tape and film for a programme the tape number took precedence and was kept).

[Deleted]

Thanks for the detailed reply, Andrew. A couple of interesting clips from TOTP have surfaced then.

[Paul02]

Thank you for the very full replies, Andrew.

I hope the catalogue, this site's listings and those on the BBC's Treasure Hunt page can be updated with the information you've given in the not too distant future.

[David Buck]

Andrew - i was checking the listings for " a whole scene going" and I think there's material on the reel I have that isn't in any of the listed editions - I recall you mentioning before that you believed there was a "best of" type reel held for this series - specifically there's interview footage with oliver tobias about "hair"

[John McEwen]

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for providing the additional insight into the infax records. It's great to have access to all this wonderful information.

One question from me: there's an infax listing for the Beatles December 1963 appearance on Juke Box Jury. Are the different source recordings (a, b, c) alluded to in the listing audio recordings, or have some visual elements been recovered? Back in 2001, there was a Beatles Book Monthly article that referred to the existance of some silent footage of their appearance. Thanks in advance!

Best regards,
John

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David said:

Andrew - i was checking the listings for " a whole scene going" and I think there's material on the reel I have that isn't in any of the listed editions - I recall you mentioning before that you believed there was a "best of" type reel held for this series - specifically there's interview footage with oliver tobias about "hair"

Just out of interest, David, how did you access info on that series? My searches under the title produced no results!