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Post by ianphillips on Sept 11, 2016 21:11:06 GMT
I think MaxB is on the same wavelength as me. Power ticked a lot of boxes to be animated. And as you say, the big problem with animating any Troughton story is dear old Patrick himself. He was a truly great but underrated actor. He could say so much with subtle facial expressions and body movements. My recollection of his early stories was that he appeared to almost be overacting at times. As he matured into the role his performance changed. This is why any animations are most welcome but the actual broadcast episodes tell the true story. I sincerely hope more animations follow. But it won't be Savages, Highlanders or Fury. I don't know about Fury. That would have been one of the ones I would put as most likely to be animated. I do, however agree about the Savages and the Highlanders not getting animated and would add The Space Pirates and the Smugglers. In fact I don't think that any of the historicals with the possible exceptions of The Crusade and maybe Marco Polo (to complete their respective seasons (also the fact that the Crusade is only missing two episodes)) would get animated. We also probably won't get the Underwater Menace due to the DVD release, or Web of Fear (hopefully we won't need one for it soon). Mission would get animated if Master Plan was, but Master Plan probably won't due to its length (Also Mission is already animated). I don't know why, but I think that the Celestial Toymaker actually has a good chance of being animated (possibly due to the fact that the sets were very small and non-detailed so they would not be super expensive to produce as an animation). There are three that I'm not sure about and they are Galaxy 4, The Faceless Ones, and The Abominable Snowmen. That leaves The Macra Terror, Evil of the Daleks, Fury from the Deep, The Wheel in Space, The Celestial Toymaker, and The Crusade as the episodes that I think will get animated. So in conclusion: Getting animated: The Crusade, The Celestial Toymaker, The Macra Terror, The Evil of the Daleks, Fury from the Deep, and The Wheel in Space. Not getting animated: Marco Polo, Galaxy 4, Mission to the Unknown, the Myth Makers, The Daleks' Master Plan, The Massacre, The Savages, The Smugglers, The Highlanders, The Underwater Menace, The Web of Fear, and The Space Pirates. Possibly getting animated: The Faceless Ones and The Abominable Snowmen. But that's just my opinion, I hope that they all get animated.
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Post by scotttelfer on Sept 12, 2016 23:21:09 GMT
Given the whole of Master Plan would be a nightmare to animate, I wonder if The Feast of Steven on its own would be an option.
It's got that interesting historical note and is pretty much entirely standalone. "The first Christmas Special" does have a bit of marketing potential. I wouldn't expect it straight away but it is an option to consider later on. It would make Master Plan as a whole potentially easier provided the same style is used to animate. Eight episodes is a bit easier than nine after all.
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Post by Marty Schultz on Sept 12, 2016 23:24:01 GMT
If colour were considered... MARCO... with a banner LOST STORY IN COLOUR!!!THE production photos are so good!
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Post by Marty Schultz on Sept 12, 2016 23:36:32 GMT
Why does Amazon have Power listed as a 2 disc set? Can anyone confirm that?
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Post by Max B on Sept 13, 2016 0:48:56 GMT
Given the whole of Master Plan would be a nightmare to animate, I wonder if The Feast of Steven on its own would be an option. It's got that interesting historical note and is pretty much entirely standalone. "The first Christmas Special" does have a bit of marketing potential. I wouldn't expect it straight away but it is an option to consider later on. It would make Master Plan as a whole potentially easier provided the same style is used to animate. Eight episodes is a bit easier than nine after all. See, I would have expected the opposite - that if Master Plan gets animated they won't bother with "The Feast of Steven." It's kind of a bizarre little historical curiosity and, as you say, is barely a part of the same story. I'd be less surprised, actually, if they were to put their efforts toward animating "Mission to the Unknown" for a Master Plan DVD, since it's frankly closer to actually being a part of The Daleks' Master Plan than FoS is.
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Post by DavidGreene on Sept 13, 2016 2:10:49 GMT
As many others have pointed out, the big factor is whether BBC America will continue to help fund these and if it does which ones. Evil of the Daleks is the most likely choice since it has the Daleks though a big factor would be the existing episode. Would you animate the whole thing to have a more finished product that would cost more when an alternative is available though would make the work look less uniformed? That's a question I can't answer. After Evil would be hard to say. BBCA would likely do the stuff more relevant to current show so it would more than likely contain big names or monsters in them. So my guess would be Wheel in Space since you have a new companion and the Cybermen. Another would be The Abominable Snowmen since that has The Great Intelligence which came up recently in the current show. After that I might wager a Hartnell story or two though I couldn't say which. If profitable enough they might try and do Masterplan but given the amount required I find it somewhat unlikely.
If BBCA doesn't help fund anymore well I think the "Only Two per story" rule might still apply and we could see The Crusades and The Underwater Menace. I personally wouldn't include Web of Fear 3 here thought that is on the table especially if they decided to release a special edition of it.
So my guess for what would be animated next if they continued to do so would be: The Evil of the Daleks The Crusade The Underwater Menace The Web of Fear (?) The Wheel in Space The Abominable Snowmen
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Post by scotttelfer on Sept 13, 2016 20:26:42 GMT
As many others have pointed out, the big factor is whether BBC America will continue to help fund these and if it does which ones. Evil of the Daleks is the most likely choice since it has the Daleks though a big factor would be the existing episode. Would you animate the whole thing to have a more finished product that would cost more when an alternative is available though would make the work look less uniformed? That's a question I can't answer. After Evil would be hard to say. BBCA would likely do the stuff more relevant to current show so it would more than likely contain big names or monsters in them. So my guess would be Wheel in Space since you have a new companion and the Cybermen. Another would be The Abominable Snowmen since that has The Great Intelligence which came up recently in the current show. After that I might wager a Hartnell story or two though I couldn't say which. If profitable enough they might try and do Masterplan but given the amount required I find it somewhat unlikely. If BBCA doesn't help fund anymore well I think the "Only Two per story" rule might still apply and we could see The Crusades and The Underwater Menace. I personally wouldn't include Web of Fear 3 here thought that is on the table especially if they decided to release a special edition of it. So my guess for what would be animated next if they continued to do so would be: The Evil of the Daleks The Crusade The Underwater Menace The Web of Fear (?) The Wheel in Space The Abominable Snowmen As has been mentioned in the past, BBC Worldwide will not touch The Crusade in fear of "certain groups" jumping down their throats. If BBC America don't do it, consider the plug is pulled on it.
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Post by Robert Lia on Sept 14, 2016 1:04:54 GMT
Trying to think from a BBC America business perspective I would take a gamble and say they would do The Faceless Ones (to show the departure of Ben and Polly) The Evil of the Daleks which introduces Victoria and The Abominable Snowman and Fury from the Deep to say good by to Victoria.
I also believe they would animate the existing episodes to make a polished product and stick the existing ones on a second disk as an extra
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Post by ianphillips on Sept 14, 2016 1:08:30 GMT
Trying to think from a BBC America business perspective I would take a gamble and say they would do The Faceless Ones (to show the departure of Ben and Polly) The Evil of the Daleks which introduces Victoria and The Abominable Snowman and Fury from the Deep to say good by to Victoria. I also believe they would animate the existing episodes to make a polished product and stick the existing ones on a second disk as an extra I'm 100% on this, but I'd think they would most likely put the existing episode on disc one, but as a toggle-able option in the special features like they did for the colorized Episode 1 of the Invasion of the Dinosaurs.
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Post by Robert Lia on Sept 14, 2016 1:10:12 GMT
They could do that for the DVD but I am sure BBC America would broadcast the animation instead of the 16mm film prints and then use clips from the existing episodes in the wrap around interviews that they show
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Post by ianphillips on Sept 14, 2016 1:14:36 GMT
They could do that for the DVD but I am sure BBC America would broadcast the animation instead of the 16mm film prints and then use clips from the existing episodes in the wrap around interviews that they show Most likely
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Post by Dylan Heath on Sept 14, 2016 11:33:44 GMT
Why does Amazon have Power listed as a 2 disc set? Can anyone confirm that? Well its not impossible that it's a listing mistake but I think if Amazon have listed it as a 2 Disc set, it probably will be, but we'll have to wait and see won't we.
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