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Post by markjhaley on Nov 17, 2015 10:48:59 GMT
It wasn't so much a case of not being allowed to stay up to watch Match Of The Day (MOTD) when I was young, it was a case of physically not being able to stay awake!
Maybe that's why I have a memory of watching the Saturday evening news on BBC2 around 7 o' clock with my Dad. They would have a spot towards the end of the programme where they showed very brief film highlights of a match from earlier in the afternoon which the presenter talked over .
It was nearly always from the London area (for a West Ham supporter that was good news) and often would only have action from the first half - presumably because there was so little time to develop and edit the film in time to broadcast. The picture quality was similar to 'cine' film, certainly not the quality of MOTD.
My recollection (and I hope this isn't a false memory) is this started around the time BBC2 broadcast in colour and finished in the very early 70's. By that time I had no trouble staying awake for MOTD so wasn't unduly concerned.
Does anybody else here at Missing Episodes remember this? If so, I wonder what happened to all the footage? Maybe there's some long unseen highlights of that era's great players sitting on a shelf in the BBC archive...
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 17, 2015 11:16:34 GMT
Hi Mark,
As a football supporter myself (Hibernian) I thank you for sharing your memories. But I sorry I cannot help you as if my memory serves me correctly? I seem to recall that on a Saturday my family always seemed to watch BBC1 around tea-time/early evening in the late 60's.
Also, as I was born and brought up in Edinburgh, then maybe our BBC2 evening news would have had a more Scottish theme to the news?
But, hopefully another forum member can help you with your query?
p.s. Whenever I think of West Ham I always remember that fantastic team they had in the 60's with Moore,Hurst and Peters etc (wow!)
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Post by Gary Critcher on Nov 17, 2015 13:42:35 GMT
' The picture quality was similar to 'cine' film, certainly not the quality of MOTD.'
er yes, that's because it was film and not VT.
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Post by kieranc on Nov 18, 2015 9:42:31 GMT
I believe the FA and Football League permitted BBC News and ITN to film one game a week, one that hadn't already been selected for the various highlight programmes. They were then allowed to show a maximum of two minutes of it in the Saturday evening news.
Both ITN Source and BBC Motion Gallery are full of listings for these short news edits so a large number of them survive. I doubt anything longer that the broadcast edits still exist though.
Oddly many of those listed on ITN Source are credited to "REUTERS TV" but they quote the BBC as the original source with the BBC's reporter apparently providing the voiceover.
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Post by Phil Leach on Nov 18, 2015 12:25:16 GMT
I believe the FA and Football League permitted BBC News and ITN to film one game a week, one that hadn't already been selected for the various highlight programmes. They were then allowed to show a maximum of two minutes of it in the Saturday evening news. Both ITN Source and BBC Motion Gallery are full of listings for these short news edits so a large number of them survive. I doubt anything longer that the broadcast edits still exist though. Oddly many of those listed on ITN Source are credited to "REUTERS TV" but they quote the BBC as the original source with the BBC's reporter apparently providing the voiceover. If they're listed as Reuters they won't be the ITN edits but will be the Visnews world syndication versions which were distributed to broadcasters. Visnews was set up by the BBC originally so it makes sense that they sourced their football from them. Visnews eventually became Reuters TV and ITN have been dealing in their material for clip sales for many years. Certainly well before ITN did their ITV clip sale deal. Oddly ITN appear to have removed all their 1960s content from ITN Source. I'm wondering if this is to do with the data cleaning. They used to display it but the catalogue entries were virtually unreadable as they appear to have used some sort of character recognition system to decode the paper records. As with a lot of these systems it didn't work and just produced rubbish. |
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Nov 18, 2015 12:53:47 GMT
I do remember this and I am 99 percent certain it was the BBC2 news yes and around 7pm. It was clearly filmed from the stand and looked inferior to the highlights packages. It would be around 1976-7.
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Post by markjhaley on Nov 18, 2015 17:24:04 GMT
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Post by Jeff Lewis on Nov 20, 2015 19:19:46 GMT
I do remember this and I am 99 percent certain it was the BBC2 news yes and around 7pm. It was clearly filmed from the stand and looked inferior to the highlights packages. It would be around 1976-7. I got a whole batch of Chelsea material, including pitch action and crowd violence all sourced originally sourced BBC news starting around this period. |
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Oct 24, 2020 14:22:05 GMT
Apologies for resurrecting this near five year old thread although this appears not to be unusual on the forum these days. Anyway here is a more recently uploaded example from April 1981 of the Saturday news bulletin on BBC2 which featured Spurs V Norwich which was not shown on that weekends MOTD. www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3g3XTemUmgThere appears to have been more than one camera by this time as my memory of the mid to late Seventies was of a single camera. Otherwise it is pretty much as I remember with the action intercut by crowd scenes. |
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