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Post by Laurence Piper on Jan 15, 2006 8:49:36 GMT
All of the CALLANs made by THAMES exist - those are the colour episodes. The two series of b/w shows were both made by ABC, although the second run was transmitted under the THAMES banner in 1969. Are you certain of this, Ian? Although the episodes were shot on 405 line and some of the second series have ABC vt clocks on them (some of which have been replaced by Thames ones) and a couple of episodes were held over from series 1, do you know shooting dates of series 2 though? That would clarify the matter for sure. |
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Post by Ian Beard on Jan 15, 2006 12:12:52 GMT
Nope, I was wrong, (as I admitted in an earlier post) - the trouble of working from memory without checking the facts first.
It's true what they say about old age not coming alone...
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Post by Nosmo King on Jan 15, 2006 14:21:54 GMT
Stuff that went out live though I effectively consider as junked material as they didn't bother to keep copies by recording off-air (at least in the era when a means of recording existed - certainly in the late 60/ early '70s). Fair enough .. I'd always make the distinction though between (a) programmes that were never recorded in the first place ... and (b) ones which were disposed of/lost/wiped/fell to pieces later ... For one thing the former are never going to turn up .. for the latter there is a chance ... |
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Post by bryanL on Feb 9, 2006 0:52:22 GMT
All of LWT's Frost live transmissions were recorded at the studios on U-matic for transmission by Gibraltar TV. Damned if I can remember the name of the company that sent them out, but they lived in Burlington Street, London. Give me another 33years and it'll come back to me!
At Rediffusion TV, in the 60's, if no-one had asked for a tape to be kept, it was WIPED and re-used after 2 weeks.
Saturday Bonanza / Banana (can't you read your own shorthand? who typed this crap? alledgedly!) was also recorded on u-matic for overseas sales.
EUREKA! Richard Price Enterprises was the company.
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Post by lfbarfe on Feb 9, 2006 1:22:19 GMT
All of LWT's Frost live transmissions were recorded at the studios on U-matic for transmission by Gibraltar TV. When was U-Matic launched? |
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Post by Laurence Piper on Feb 9, 2006 10:15:28 GMT
About 1972.
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Post by lfbarfe on Feb 9, 2006 14:03:05 GMT
So too late for the first 4 years or so of Frost on LWT. |
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Post by Laurence Piper on Feb 9, 2006 15:07:56 GMT
Yep. Was U-Matic good enough quality for selling though? Never heard of this as a format for sales before. Usually I thought it was b/w t/rs as it was easier for other countires to use this medium.
Has anyone checked out Richard Price Enterprises though? A U-Matic of a missing show is better than none at all (although it'll be stuff post-1972 or thereabouts).
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Post by Gary on Feb 9, 2006 18:20:40 GMT
Who knows when Frost shows ended?The interesting years were the first few when there wasnt the option of recording onto a u-matic.What period of the programme are you talking about then bryan?
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Post by lfbarfe on Feb 9, 2006 21:32:11 GMT
Yep. Was U-Matic good enough quality for selling though? Never heard of this as a format for sales before. Usually I thought it was b/w t/rs as it was easier for other countires to use this medium. High-band U-Matic was used for transmission in some places. If Gibraltar's television service had a standing order with LWT for the Frost shows, I guess they were able to specify the format they wanted them on. |
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Post by lfbarfe on Feb 9, 2006 21:39:16 GMT
Who knows when Frost shows ended? His last London Weekend show seems to have gone out on 13/10/1973. After that, he did a lot of work for the BBC. I seem to recall, however, that the Nixon interviews went out on LWT, because of John Birt's production role. |
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Post by Laurence Piper on Feb 10, 2006 17:27:15 GMT
High-band U-Matic was used for transmission in some places. If Gibraltar's television service had a standing order with LWT for the Frost shows, I guess they were able to specify the format they wanted them on. Yes. Wasn't thinking of High Band. I was assuming Low. If copies on HB were recovered of anything then they'd be pretty good! Maybe Bryan knows of some of the 1968 Frost shows existing somewhere on U-Matic tapes before that format existed?!? |
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Post by lfbarfe on Feb 10, 2006 19:35:30 GMT
Yes. Wasn't thinking of High Band. I was assuming Low. If copies on HB were recovered of anything then they'd be pretty good! Maybe Bryan knows of some of the 1968 Frost shows existing somewhere on U-Matic tapes before that format existed?!? Hmm, I suppose it's possible that the earlier shows were recorded on 2" quad, then dubbed to U-Matic for Gibraltar once that format was in use. However, given the topical nature of most of the Frost shows, I wonder whether the Gibraltar lot would have been interested 3 or 4 years after the event? |
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Post by Lance C on Feb 10, 2006 20:56:18 GMT
Highband umatic did not make an appearance until around 1980, it was meant to be a broadcast standard in news gathering, but many engineers were not happy with it and was put in the shade by betacam a few years later.
The vast majority of umatics will be in the low band standard. which I think you will agree would be an act of desperation to actually broadcast with it?
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Post by Laurence Piper on Feb 10, 2006 22:26:46 GMT
Desperation maybe but I have some material on 1st gen low band which are direct dubs and the quality is very good indeed. Puts domestic formats like VHS and SVHS in the shade; stable, subtle colour and better picture definition. Less than broadcast standard but if something missing turned up on this format then it could be quite good quality.
Just thinking that if any of the Frosts were sent to Gibraltar on HB then maybe they were compilations made later and containing material with a longer shelf life? I wonder is there any documentation at LWT to say if this happened at all and if so when?
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