John Stewart Miller
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Post by John Stewart Miller on Jan 8, 2006 12:12:32 GMT
How much of this ITV show survives?
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Post by Stephen Doran on Jan 8, 2006 12:58:50 GMT
was this jimmy hanley?
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Post by Andrew Doherty on Jan 8, 2006 14:44:45 GMT
Sorry, I pressed "Enter" by mistake.
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Post by Andrew Doherty on Jan 8, 2006 14:46:16 GMT
Yes, Jimmy Hanley was the host of the Associated Rediffusion advertizing magazine "Jim's Inn".
Only the A.R. outside broadcast from the 1961 Ideal Home Exhibition with the "Jim's Inn" team exists, which I sent to the BFI in 1998. It is possible that the odd show may have been recorded but I do not think any have surfaced apart from the outside broadcast .
Yours,
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Post by Andrew Doherty on Jan 8, 2006 14:50:16 GMT
My apologies again for pressing "Enter".
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Post by Stephen Doran on Jan 8, 2006 18:49:17 GMT
Yes, Jimmy Hanley was the host of the Associated Rediffusion advertizing magazine "Jim's Inn". Only the A.R. outside broadcast from the 1961 Ideal Home Exhibition with the "Jim's Inn" team exists, which I sent to the BFI in 1998. It is possible that the odd show may have been recorded but I do not think any have surfaced apart from the outside broadcast .its not even mentioned on imdb. Yours, |
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Post by Simon Mclean on Jan 9, 2006 23:10:27 GMT
Apropos of nothing, a Jim's Inn tankard turned up on eBay a few weeks ago, and stupidly I forgot to put a bid on!
I believe there was also a spin-off LP, 'Sing Along At Jim's Inn' featuring all the cast, though I've never seen one......
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Post by bryanL on Feb 9, 2006 1:08:52 GMT
I remember recording these in 1964? on Ampex 1000A 2inch quad machines at Wembley studios. the 1000A differed from the 1000 by having a tape timer on it ! (friction driven by the tape).
Unfortunately, ITV accountants then had a rule that if no-one had asked for a programme to be kept within 14 days of TX, the tape was released to be wiped and re-used.
There was no other way of recording video on tape at the time. It is possible that there could be a 16mm telerecording somewhere, as we were trying out a fast-pull down telerecorder for HDF at the time. (HDF was a Pye company)
Jenny Hanley is Jim's daughter. Before she became a Blue Peter presenter she was "colour girl" for Intertel TV Facilities, sitting in front of the huge 3x 3inch image-orthicon tube colour cameras of 1965 for line-up; these were ex Smith-Kline-French medical jobs made by Marconi
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Post by lfbarfe on Feb 9, 2006 1:17:10 GMT
Jenny Hanley is Jim's daughter. Before she became a Blue Peter presenter she was "colour girl" for Intertel TV Facilities, sitting in front of the huge 3x 3inch image-orthicon tube colour cameras of 1965 for line-up; these were ex Smith-Kline-French medical jobs made by Marconi Would these be the BD848 coffins? I heard something about them being developed for medical use (closed circuit relay of training operations, etc.) but were the Intertel ones bought from Smith-Kline-French after they'd finished with them? |
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Post by Stephen Doran on Feb 9, 2006 7:49:26 GMT
jenny hanley was in magpie.
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Post by SteveS on Feb 9, 2006 11:01:14 GMT
As an aside to the above, a number of admags (of which Jim's Inn was one) now reside with the NFTVA as a result of MBW. Once they were an endangered species but, according to the Dick Fiddy book on the very same subject, now survive in large numbers.
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Post by bryanL on Mar 2, 2006 0:24:42 GMT
yes, those SKF cameras were the ones Intertel bought. Coffin is a suitable name, they were BIG & HEAVY! I remember one sliding off the wedge plate on the mounting, and pinning the camera-man in the bucket seat on the Heron.
And insensitive-- we used in excess of 600 foot-candles on faces for the Hippodrome show recorded in 525 for the states . We were at f11 on the side-by-side B & W EMI 203 with the darkest ND's we had.
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Post by John G on Mar 2, 2006 11:15:01 GMT
yes, those SKF cameras were the ones Intertel bought. Coffin is a suitable name, they were BIG & HEAVY! I remember one sliding off the wedge plate on the mounting, and pinning the camera-man in the bucket seat on the Heron. And insensitive-- we used in excess of 600 foot-candles on faces for the Hippodrome show recorded in 525 for the states . We were at f11 on the side-by-side B & W EMI 203 with the darkest ND's we had. Did you have any overhead shots on the Hippodrome Show or was it just ground based cameras? It sounds like you really pushed the envelope with the technology on this spectacular show? Its a terrible shame that this bit of our heritage does not appear to exist anymore in its original colour format?. |
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Post by Andy Henderson on Mar 2, 2006 22:02:33 GMT
Not large, still in single figures. Just by memory...there is a charming (ATV?) mag with a couple setting up home. Andrew Doherty's marvelous half hour outing to the Ideal Home (including a great moment where one of two female hosts outside a fake waterfall fluffs a line and the other fluffs the covering line too). Also there is an early mag with Valerie Singleton and she is very prim and proper. Finally, I found a Kenneth Horne mag called 'Just the Job', which brought out one of the loudest laughs I've heard at the NFT when the catch phrase 'Stay Gay, the Stergene Way!' was repeated.
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Post by bryanL on Mar 3, 2006 21:56:06 GMT
John G, I think we only had 4 of those 3 inch IO 525 /ntsc colour cameras, (Jeez, all Valves!) on the studio floor. And 5 B & W 405 4and a half inch IO EMi's. One of the colour cameras was on a fork-lift camera crane thingy--not sure if it was a Mole Richardson or a Vinten, electrically tracked and hydraulically elevated; the rest were on peds. There WAS a manned Philips B & W Plumbicon in the lighting grid, (where it must have been Hell, as it was 90 F on the studio floor!) The guy, in shorts, only went up there 60secs. before the overhead shots were needed. (trapeze) We ran 600 amps on each of the 3 phases in house, and had 4 genny trucks outside, giving 110 and 220DC for arcs and even more AC! The studio is the current Fountain 1 and 2 at Wembley.
Those Intertel guys worked a 148 hour week. They covered ATV's Sunday Night at the London Palladium Friday to Sunday for the states, Hippodrome at A-R Monday to Wednesday, and then shot sports etc in Europe the rest of the week!
The Hippodrome shows went out in the states on 525 colour, and I think there were 13 in the series, all fronted by various US big names in London at the time, for NBC. Dusty Springfield was a mere up and coming Limey singer, Lisa Manelli gave engineers all a big kiss when we tuned out the local taxi firm from her radio mike--an illegal device at the time in the UK !
In the UK the Hippodromes went out in 405. On 2inch tape. We never managed to get the in-house VTs (Ampex 1000Bs) to hold color lock for more than 50 seconds. But, then, tho' multi standard, they were heavily modified to run on the 50cycles 405 B& W TV system.
Moderator: I'm sure this isn't relevant to the original Jim's Inn thread, perhaps it needs another forum, but I don't want it to disappear!
bryanL
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