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Post by Alan Turrell on Apr 17, 2015 13:16:18 GMT
One of the clips on the same DVD is a news report in Welsh from the early 60's. Which means it's either BBC Wales, TWW, Granada (they did a teensy bit of Welsh programming prior to 1964) or Teledu Cymru. And that makes it most likely wiped. Trouble is I can't speak more than 5 words of Welsh! Maybe we could get hold of a welsh interpreter Ray anyone on the forum who speaks welsh ? |
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Post by williammcgregor on Apr 17, 2015 16:13:30 GMT
1965 series
*Righteous Brothers 11/01/65 date not on Mark's initial post
Jimmy Radcliffe "Love After Tonight is All Over" 12/01/65
Cilla 13/01/65 "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling"
Billy Fury 15/01/65
The Marionettes 18/01/65
Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders 20/01/65
Cliff Bennett and the Rebel Rousers 25/01/65
The Gamblers 27/01/65
Billy J Kramer 28/01/65
Craig Douglas 29/01/65
Jimmy Savile was to have his own spot every Tuesday night reviewing records.
He had a guest each week and the first was Herman's Hermits on the 02/02/65
Adam Faith 03/02/65
The Zombies 04/02/65
Tony Jackson and the Vibrations and The Four Pennies 08/02/65
Nashville Teens 09/02/65
Sandie Shaw 11/02/65
Herman's Hermits and Julie Rogers 12/02/65
Gerry and the Pacemakers 19/02/65
The Yardbirds 20/02/65
The Zephyrs 26/03/65
The Animals 29/03/65
*Freddie and the Dreamers 31/03/65 date not on Mark's initial post
Doris Troy 01/04/65
Kinks 05/04/65
Goldie and the Gingerbreads 06/04/65
Roger Miller 07/04/65
Herman's Hermits 08/04/65
Rockin' Berries 06/05/65
Jackie Trent 07/05/65
Nashville Teens 10/05/65
Billy J Kramer 22/05/65 "Trains and Boats and Planes"
Chubby Checker 28/05/65
Dave Berry 31/05/65
The Hollies 01/06/65
Gene Pitney 10/06/65
Lulu 15/06/65
Solomon Burke 17/06/65
Billy Fury 26/06/65 "In Thoughts of You"
Bobby Vinton 27/06/65
The Ivy League 05/07/65
Georgie Fame and the Blue Flames 08/07/65
Inez and Charlie Foxx 12/07/65
Marianne Faithful 15/07/65
The Byrds 20/07/65
Manfred Mann 23/07/65
Bo Diddley 27/07/65
The Walker Brothers 03/08/65
Lulu 16/08/65
Herman's Hermits 18/08/65
Jackie De Shannon 24/08/65
The Hollies 25/08/65
Cliff Bennett and the Rebel Rousers 26/08/65
Herman's Hermits 31/08/65
Sandie Shaw 07/09/65
Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders 15/09/65
*Petula Clark 17/09/65 date not on Mark's initial post
Paul and Barry Ryan 21/09/65
The Searchers 29/09/65
Gerry and the Pacemakers 29/10/65
The Toys 30/11/65
Tom Jones 07/12/65
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Post by markdixon on Apr 18, 2015 8:22:27 GMT
Hi William. Thanks again for all the information that you’ve found.
There are quite a few unexpected names in these lists. It’s interesting that Northern viewers got early exposure to soul singers such as Jimmy Radcliffe and Doris Troy. Some of the records recorded by these artists in the mid-Sixties came to be regarded as Northern Soul classics a few years later.
I think the Banshees who appeared on 17/09/64 were a band from the North-East of England. For a while their vocalist was Bryan Ferry, but I think he left shortly before their ‘Scene at 6.30’ appearance.
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Post by williammcgregor on Apr 18, 2015 20:09:03 GMT
Hi Mark,
Glad you like the information
It is interesting that Northern viewers got early exposure to soul singers such as Jimmy Radcliffe and Doris Troy
also I did'nt know that Bryan Ferry was a vocalist for The Banshees thanks for that information! (that's why I like this forum it expands my pop music knowledge) handy for quiz nights!
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Post by williammcgregor on Apr 19, 2015 9:10:37 GMT
1966 series
Dusty Springfield 25/01/66
The Small Faces 26/01/66
Chad and Jeremy 31/01/66
Vic Dana 01/02/66
Eddy Arnold 02/02/66
The Four Pennies 03/02/66
Inez and Charlie Foxx 04/02/66
Billy Fury 11/02/66 "I'll Never Quite Get Over You"
Unit Four Plus 2 17/02/66
DDDBM&T 01/03/66
The Bachelors )7/03/66 "Sound of Silence"
Chris Andrews 22/03/66
Cilla 23/03/66
Dusty Springfield 28/03/66
Sandie Shaw 12/05/66 "Nothing Comes Easy"
Tom Jones 13/05/66 "I'm Not Responsible"
The Hollies 15/06/66 "Bus Stop"
The Alan Price Set 20/07/66 "Hi-Lili,Hi-Lo"
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Post by williammcgregor on Apr 19, 2015 14:00:08 GMT
Scene
1966
Lulu 07/09/66
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Post by williammcgregor on Apr 27, 2015 12:05:07 GMT
Scene
1967
Sandy Posey 15/02/67
P.J.Proby 18/02/67
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Post by markdixon on Apr 29, 2015 12:52:25 GMT
I looked at Northern editions of the ‘TV Times’ and found the following details regarding music guests on ‘Scene at 6.30’:
Jun 1963 -Jennifer Moss (‘Coronation Street’ actress who sang on several Joe Meek productions)
9 Sep 1963 –The Innocents ‘Stepping Stones’
10 Sep 1963 – Jimmy Justice ‘You’re Gonna Need My Lovin’’
11 Sep 1963 – Kenny Lynch
Early 1964 (?) – Dave Berry
20 Jan 1964 – Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders
27 Feb 1964 – The Caravelles
2 Mar 1964 – Tony Sheridan "with a disc he recorded some time ago with a then almost unknown group – the Beatles"
10 Mar 1964 – Clinton Ford
Mar 64 – Millicent Martin - ‘Nothing But the Best’
c. May 1965 – Roy and the Rest (Mancunian beat group)
10 Jun 1966 – Marianne Faithfull (she was featured on the front cover of the ‘TV Times’ in connection with this appearance)
13 Jun 1966 – The Beatles ‘Paperback Writer’ (this must have been a showing of one of the black and white InterTel promotional videos directed by Michael Lindsay-Hogg on 19 May 1966)
Other information
In June 1963 an amateur talent spot was launched on ‘Scene at 6.30’. One act appeared each week. It seems that many beat groups were featured.
Johnny Hamp presented a feature called ‘Pop Scene’ every Wednesday on ‘Scene at 6.30’ in 1964. I think the first ‘Pop Scene’ was broadcast on 18 March 1964. Musical guests would use this spot to promote singles weeks before the release date.
There was a ‘Pop Scene Special’ on 22 April 1964. William has already mentioned this. It was recorded in Montreux and featured Cilla Black and a few other Merseybeat performers. I wonder if any footage from this edition exists in a Swiss TV archive? Maybe a Swiss broadcaster assisted Granada in the production of the programme.
The 2 July-8 July 1966 edition of the ‘TV Times’ included a feature to promote the new late-night ‘Scene’ programme. It included the following:
On the music side of the later ‘Scene’, Granada’s Light Entertainment chief, Johnny Hamp, has plans to slot in the more sophisticated type of entertainment suitable for late-night viewing. Special musical spots will be directed by Philip Casson.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 29, 2015 12:56:58 GMT
There was a ‘Pop Scene Special’ on 22 April 1964. William has already mentioned this. It was recorded in Montreux and featured Cilla Black and a few other Merseybeat performers. I wonder if any footage from this edition exists in a Swiss TV archive? Maybe a Swiss broadcaster assisted Granada in the production of the programme. The Rolling Stones actually went to Montreux:- en route (19.4.64) www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eMGCb_1aKc |
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Post by markdixon on May 3, 2015 12:39:14 GMT
I found out that some of the musical performances on ‘Scene at 6.30’ were filmed on location. This increases the chances that some of this material might still exist somewhere.
According to the ‘Manchesterbeat’ website, the Righteous Brothers’ performance of 'You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'' on ‘Scene at 6.30’ in January 1965 was filmed at Belle Vue Zoological Gardens in Manchester. The Just Four Men (who later became freakbeat band Wimple Winch) were filmed there for the programme on the same day. I think the director was probably Michael Apted.
I suspect that a few other ‘Scene at 6.30’ music clips were probably filmed at Belle Vue because Granada used the place as a backdrop for pop performances fairly regularly. For example, the Flirtations were filmed visiting the amusement park and speedway track for a music spot on ‘Newsday’ in 1971 (this clip still exists). Belle Vue was also featured on ‘Lift Off’ in 1971 and a whole edition of ‘45’ was recorded there in 1974.
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Post by markdixon on May 13, 2015 13:25:01 GMT
I looked at ‘The Stage’ archive and a few other websites and found some more details regarding missing music performances from ‘Scene at 6.30’ and ‘Scene’.
First of all here are some well-known names:
2 May 1966: The Small Faces
17 May 1966: Gary Walker
18 May 1966: The Troggs
16 Jan 1968: Marty Wilde ‘By The Time I Get To Phoenix’
The rest of the list contains quite obscure performers, but I’ve checked online and some of these artists still have fans out there.
12 Jun 1964: Marilyn Powell (When she covered ‘All My Loving’ in ’64 she became the first female vocalist to record a Beatles song)
Dec 1964 (?): Steve Aldo ‘Can I Get A Witness’ (R & B/soul singer from Liverpool)
c. Apr 1965: David and Marianne Dalmour (Cabaret/folk duo from Leeds)
Jan 1966 (?): Friday Brown ‘Getting Nowhere’ (Blues/soul singer from Salford who had her own Tyne-Tees series, ‘A Girl Called Friday’, in 1968)
Jul 1967: Ruth Saxon (Singer from Manchester who also became a presenter on ‘Scene’. As far as I know, she was the first black presenter on a British news programme)
Aug 1967 (?): Foggy Dew-O (Folk duo from South Yorkshire)
Early 1968: Annie Bright (Jazz singer who was a regular on the Tyne-Tees music programme ‘The Late Mood’ in 1968)
Other information
The fifth anniversary of ‘Scene’ was celebrated by an article in the Northern edition of the ‘TV Times’ (Jan 13- Jan 19 1968). Producer Johnnie Hamp remembered how the early days of the programme coincided with the sudden popularity of the Beatles. He made the following comments:
Overnight the Mersey Sound became internationally famous. We sold thousands of feet of film of the new pop idols to TV stations around the world.
American executives, visiting Manchester with their families, rang Granada for tickets for the Cavern on behalf of their daughters, when really they wanted to see the new pop scene for themselves.
This raises hope that some 'Scene at 6.30' music footage might still be out there, possibly in an American TV archive.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on May 13, 2015 13:38:16 GMT
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Post by markdixon on May 13, 2015 15:01:33 GMT
The programme featuring Pink Floyd is listed on ITN Source as ‘Scene (Underground)’, but the full title is ‘Scene Special: It’s So Far Out, It’s Straight Down’. I think clips from this have been used in a few other Granada documentaries including the programme about Sgt. Pepper from 1987 -‘It Was Twenty Years Ago Today’.
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Post by williammcgregor on May 13, 2015 15:05:55 GMT
absolutely brilliant! thanks for posting the Pink Floyd footage Ray
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on May 14, 2015 7:54:11 GMT
The programme featuring Pink Floyd is listed on ITN Source as ‘Scene (Underground)’, but the full title is ‘Scene Special: It’s So Far Out, It’s Straight Down’. I think clips from this have been used in a few other Granada documentaries including the programme about Sgt. Pepper from 1987 -‘It Was Twenty Years Ago Today’. Great - it's one other clip from Scene we know about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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