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Post by markboulton on Feb 16, 2015 0:30:08 GMT
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Post by trevorhilton on Feb 16, 2015 8:59:06 GMT
Form the bits I've seen of Catch Us If You Can, it plays more like a dated Ealing comedy, whereas A Hard Days Night look sharp and modern and new. CUIYC really sags in the middle, and it's basically just the main character (I assume it's DC) and the other four are little more than extras.
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Post by johnpater on Feb 16, 2015 9:32:41 GMT
It's nothing like an Ealing Comedy whatsoever. Very modern '60s sort of film but quite gritty in places and with a dark storyline untypical of the period. An underrated film. The rest of the DC5 are under-used admittedly but as a film it's a quite strong atmospheric effort. Watch the whole film as it will reward the effort.
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Post by Patrick Coles on Feb 16, 2015 10:06:07 GMT
yes you would not have got the scene with the 'drop outs' (presumably drug takers from how it's portrayed - Ealing comedy ? ) in the 'Marx Brothers' style romps The Beatles found themselves engaged in (that so bored John Lennon stiff) - running & clowning about in fields, running alongside trains calling out names, looking for a rascally old Irish Grandfather, etc
While The (jokey) military attack scene in the far more Ealing comedy style 'Help !' copies the actual military excercise scene in CUIYC too...
CUIYC is largely about the model (Barbara Ferris) trying to escape from the zany media crowd (hence the title) - the other DC5 members are little more than 'extras' in the film but John Boorman's direction is pretty tight and the film is an interesting sixties period piece.
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Post by johnmce on Feb 16, 2015 10:17:36 GMT
Does anyone know how many of the RSG clips had not already appeared on the various VHS releases? The reason I ask is I can't help wondering if Dave Clark actually does have a treasure trove of unreleased material, or whether most of it, if not all has already been released.
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Post by chrisstratton on Feb 16, 2015 11:52:33 GMT
I think whatever anyone thinks about Dave Clark,he did save whatever RSG footage was left and I'm assuming a great deal of it has been broadcast when he could have easily have kept it private.i do think it's a shame he hasn't released it onto DVD as it was originally shown and not cut into a compilation.
As for the documentary......i agree it was a bit too long.....cut out the talking heads and just focus on the DC5 while they were still a group and it would have been much better.
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Post by johnpater on Feb 16, 2015 12:08:35 GMT
yes you would not have got the scene with the 'drop outs' (presumably drug takers from how it's portrayed - Ealing comedy ? ) in the 'Marx Brothers' style romps The Beatles found themselves engaged in (that so bored John Lennon stiff) - running & clowning about in fields, running alongside trains calling out names, looking for a rascally old Irish Grandfather, etc While The (jokey) military attack scene in the far more Ealing comedy style 'Help !' copies the actual military excercise scene in CUIYC too... CUIYC is largely about the model (Barbara Ferris) trying to escape from the zany media crowd (hence the title) - the other DC5 members are little more than 'extras' in the film but John Boorman's direction is pretty tight and the film is an interesting sixties period piece. In some ways you could say CUIYC is an arty film. It has strong direction, visuals and pace (Clark's acting is nothing to write home about but the story manages to drape itself around DC without him getting in the way too much, in a similar fashion to how this was done with Bowie in Man Who Fell To Earth). I love A Hard Day's Night to bits too (an innovative and strikingly stylish movie in itself) but they are very different types of films to each other. |
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Post by johnpater on Feb 16, 2015 12:15:37 GMT
Does anyone know how many of the RSG clips had not already appeared on the various VHS releases? The reason I ask is I can't help wondering if Dave Clark actually does have a treasure trove of unreleased material, or whether most of it, if not all has already been released. That is the big question and no one knows for certain other than DC. The impression given in the doc was that he had preserved the whole series for future viewers and historians to appreciate. I guess that most of what exists has been used in the C4 compilations (at least the stuff he considered useable) with little more remaining unseen. It needs a group like Kaleidoscope to liase with DC on his archive to get a clear picture of what is in it. The C4 compilations used some other non RSG clips though so possibly he has other (thought missing?) pop footage needing cataloguing too? All this material is certainly screaming to be made available though. |
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Feb 16, 2015 13:41:04 GMT
As it is now a few years since DC finished remastering and releasing the DC5 back catalogue, it would be nice to think that he is now working on his video archive and that iTunes will soon be offering every episode he has of RSG. I'd be quite happy paying a couple of quid to download each episode, assuming they are offered complete - uncut and unedited...
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Post by johnmce on Feb 16, 2015 15:19:18 GMT
If he did save the entire run, there would be a huge number of performances by the cream of the 60s stars - The Beatles, Stones, Dusty, Sandie Shaw and loads of others.
I'm afraid that I think it is all smoke and mirrors and most of what Dave Clark has was released on the RSG tapes, plus the Otis and Motown specials. But I'd love to proved wrong.
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Post by ashleywood on Feb 16, 2015 17:05:25 GMT
so i'm watching the doc again on bbc and they're saying wow he was such an incredible genius for keeping his masters wow how amazing. where can i buy the dc5 albums ? Well, between 2008 and 2012 Dave Clark has mastered and released 28 albums, which include "Time" Act 1 and "Time" Act 2, plus "If Somebody Loves You" (with the original artwork!) and 3 new albums of unreleased tracks. They're available around the world (I checked the UK, US and Australian stores): itunes.apple.com/gb/artist/the-dave-clark-five/id128622259So the entire back catalogue of DC5 is readily available. It's just the RSG archive that need releasing a.s.a.p. I'm not a DC5 expert but as far as i'm aware, many of the tracklistings have been changed and songs credited to composer Ron Ryan removed so apparently that is not the case. Apologies if my information is incorrect. Maybe a DC5 expert can chime in on this one. I'll check it out later if i can. |
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Post by johnhanzel on Feb 16, 2015 19:23:20 GMT
Hello, new here.
I think those that know the true facts don't want to talk. Bottom line is, he owns NO rights!
He just happened to be in the right place at the right time, that is the true fact.
When he stumbled across a stack of old film telerecordings, including "Around The Beatles" and the few RSG shows and specials, it was sheer luck. Rediffusion Television had gone under as a company, these few shows were all that they had kept from the 60's, the "big" ones, Beatles, Rolling Stones, The Who, Otis, etc, etc.
He merely was looking for DC5 footage, and someone sold him these "saved" shows probably for peanuts. He released everything he had, and that quickly came to an end when wise ones like Sandie Shaw stepped forward and stopped him. This material will never be released again, grab the old laser discs, clear the artists and music, and release them yourselves, as they are just considered public domain.
Its all very sad, but true, the man is a fake! Long live the REAL talent of the band! Mike, Den, Rick, and Len
John Hanzel
PS--YES! its absurd, look at the track listings for the first USA Epic 1964 album on itunes "Glad All Over", he took off the Ron Ryan material, and added songs from years later! makes no sense, he's nuts!
That's just like adding Come Together onto With The Beatles, the man has a LOT to hide!
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Post by Richard Marple on Feb 16, 2015 20:09:46 GMT
Rediffusion selling the existing RSG for next to nothing reminds me of Warner Bros selling lots of their cartoon shorts cheaply to Associated Artists Productions.
They also thought the cartoons were worthless, but AAP managed to sell them to TV stations for decades afterwards.
There wasn't even the nostalga factor needed to keep up demand as "generations" of children tend to be shorter.
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Feb 16, 2015 20:24:40 GMT
Didn't realise he'd tampered with the original track listings. I notice he's even photoshopped the original artwork of "Glad All Over" to include his new selection of songs. It's bizarre that he would re-issue his back catalogue but miss out several important recordings. Also the early albums need to be made available in both Mono and Stereo to match their original counterparts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 20:40:28 GMT
Catch Us If You Can ... never seen it, though I've obviously heard of it, know the song etc. Not the easiest film to acquire though  |
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