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Post by Paul Vanezis on Jul 23, 2014 13:10:53 GMT
Good to hear from Paul V in this thread. It clears up so much cr@p that gets posted elsewhere. Can anyone explain please what an audition print is ? I'm getting thoroughly confused between whether it's films, tape and prints being exported overseas but then learning more about all of this is one of the reasons I visit this Forum. An audition print is a normal 16mm film print sent as a sample of a series to a broadcaster. It's used to check content and quality of the material on offer. I have only ever seen one, which did have typed on it the words 'Audition Print'. Regards, Paul
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 16:12:25 GMT
Good to hear from Paul V in this thread. It clears up so much cr@p that gets posted elsewhere. Can anyone explain please what an audition print is ? I'm getting thoroughly confused between whether it's films, tape and prints being exported overseas but then learning more about all of this is one of the reasons I visit this Forum. An audition print is a normal 16mm film print sent as a sample of a series to a broadcaster. It's used to check content and quality of the material on offer. I have only ever seen one, which did have typed on it the words 'Audition Print'. Regards, Paul I think that one of the most famous/infamous examples of Audition prints are the ones of The Daleks Master Plan bar episode 7 that was sent to Australia but was rejected. I presume they were sent back to London?
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Post by John Green on Jul 23, 2014 16:26:38 GMT
Standing on the chilly rooftop,the Dalek leader quips "Have we passed the audition?".
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Post by seanrobbins on Jul 23, 2014 17:18:14 GMT
I think that one of the most famous/infamous examples of Audition prints are the ones of The Daleks Master Plan bar episode 7 that was sent to Australia but was rejected. I presume they were sent back to London? Possibly worthy of a separate thread but one of the things I have wondered about a few times is, whether the episodes from Daleks Masterplan we do have came from the prints offered to Australia? Because, if they're not from that source, where are they from?
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Post by Simon Jailler on Jul 23, 2014 17:19:14 GMT
An audition print is a normal 16mm film print sent as a sample of a series to a broadcaster. It's used to check content and quality of the material on offer. I have only ever seen one, which did have typed on it the words 'Audition Print'. Regards, Paul I think that one of the most famous/infamous examples of Audition prints are the ones of The Daleks Master Plan bar episode 7 that was sent to Australia but was rejected. I presume they were sent back to London? Thanks Paul & James.
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Post by John Green on Jul 23, 2014 17:27:30 GMT
I think that one of the most famous/infamous examples of Audition prints are the ones of The Daleks Master Plan bar episode 7 that was sent to Australia but was rejected. I presume they were sent back to London? Possibly worthy of a separate thread but one of the things I have wondered about a few times is, whether the episodes from Daleks Masterplan we do have came from the prints offered to Australia? Because, if they're not from that source, where are they from? Would that be cases where there was apparently only the one copy,and against all the odds,it survives?
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Post by Ken Griffin on Jul 23, 2014 19:50:11 GMT
I think that one of the most famous/infamous examples of Audition prints are the ones of The Daleks Master Plan bar episode 7 that was sent to Australia but was rejected. I presume they were sent back to London? They weren't audition prints - they were transmission prints which were rejected by the censor. Audition prints would have been used at a far earlier stage of the sales process when a broadcaster was potentially interested in purchasing a series for screening. In that situation, an audition print of a typical episode or two might be sent out to the broadcaster to demonstrate the series and hopefully convince them to purchase it. If they weren't interested, the prints were returned to the originating broadcaster. I am presuming that if the broadcaster did purchase the series, they hung onto the audition prints and used them for transmission purposes. I am not certain that audition prints were very common - I have only ever encountered one in my own research.
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Post by John Green on Jul 23, 2014 19:57:32 GMT
Wasn't there-in fact,was there?-a theory that 'The Ice Warriors' was sent to Germany on spec?
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Post by Rob Moore on Jul 23, 2014 21:02:33 GMT
I might be splitting hairs here ... but PM states that the Sierra Leone episodes were returned to London, rather than the BBC. Did TIE Ltd have an office in London?
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jul 23, 2014 21:11:57 GMT
I think that one of the most famous/infamous examples of Audition prints are the ones of The Daleks Master Plan bar episode 7 that was sent to Australia but was rejected. I presume they were sent back to London? Possibly worthy of a separate thread but one of the things I have wondered about a few times is, whether the episodes from Daleks Masterplan we do have came from the prints offered to Australia? Because, if they're not from that source, where are they from? Not all prints recovered were broadcast prints; some have been original negatives (or positives) from BBC Enterprises. It's entirely possible the three recovered DMP episodes were from Australia but without paperwork/first hand accounts/a big fat note on the film can etc to back it up we'll probably never know. It's also possible they were "off the shelf" copies from Enterprises that made their way around London somehow.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jul 23, 2014 21:15:36 GMT
I might be splitting hairs here ... but PM states that the Sierra Leone episodes were returned to London, rather than the BBC. Did TIE Ltd have an office in London? gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/TIE_LtdYes London, with sales offices in Geneva, Paris, Amsterdam and Beirut.
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Post by Rob Moore on Jul 23, 2014 22:32:13 GMT
I might be splitting hairs here ... but PM states that the Sierra Leone episodes were returned to London, rather than the BBC. Did TIE Ltd have an office in London? gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/TIE_LtdYes London, with sales offices in Geneva, Paris, Amsterdam and Beirut. Thanks and great website by the way! Not sure if this means anything or not, perhaps someone here can clarify if the records state their episodes were returned to the BBC?
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jul 23, 2014 23:20:44 GMT
Thanks and great website by the way! Not sure if this means anything or not, perhaps someone here can clarify if the records state their episodes were returned to the BBC? You'd have to track down the original paperwork to answer that question. From what we can tell, Australia, New Zealand and recently Sierra Leone are the only countries with confirmed paperwork (plus those within the bicycle chain). Hopefully Phil Morris can find more and/or reveal details in the future.
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Post by johnforbes on Jul 24, 2014 14:57:38 GMT
Tbh, the most telling answer imo was Q5. That TIEA is doing its own restoration work.
After the fiasco surrounding the leaking of the other 9, I don't think it is surprising tbh that he isn't using the RT.
If he has got any other eps, and that's a very big if, i would be of the opinion he would finish restoration of everything Who related that he has got and announce any other finds all at once rather than in dribs and drabs.
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Post by George D on Jul 24, 2014 21:00:26 GMT
he says he has the resources.. a lot depends on negotations.. I have to admit though.. the RT has done an amazing job...
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