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Post by ashleywood on Sept 3, 2019 9:22:47 GMT
I believe Star Time 14 April 1960 exists in partial audio form - the clip in question features Alma Cogan and The Everly Brothers. I will try to confirm this in the next few days.
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Post by ashleywood on Aug 1, 2019 13:29:59 GMT
which one's are missing ? I have a 16mm of a 1937 one called Beauty and The Beast but it looks like the title card may have amended from something else, It's a Universal / Walter Lantz production.
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Post by ashleywood on Jul 22, 2019 15:53:19 GMT
Thanks for your assistance Ashley. I am still of the view the 21/01 recording in Glasgow went out the following Thursday as it is the most logical explanation. It does however contradict some of the info on this thread! I would agree but on closer inspection the TOTP broadcast on 21 Jan has the following number 12/1/5/0014 for (I think) accounting purposes (it says charge to this number) which is the same as Gerry and The Pacemakers appearance from the 21st. The prog. broadcast 14th ends in the number 0013 and the one after (the 28th) 0015. Unfortunately their contract doesn't say what time (The Moodys) had to film but I am now thinking that it was filmed during the 21st to be played into the show that evening. They look like they're playing in a different space to Gerry in what looks more like a large room rather than the regular TOTP set ? Not a sign of Saville either who can be seen in the background during Gerry's clip. I suspect that the Dec. 64 appearance by The Moody Blues is actually missing and the version we have is not a repeat from that day but an ampex recording made 21 Jan 65 for the 21 Jan 65 show. (??). On the 20th Jan chart the record had just jumped from number 10 to 3. Other artists seemingly from the 21 Jan edition also exist (Brian Poole / Gerry and The P. / Del Shannon / Moodys / Manfred Mann) so I'd be inclined to think that the episode survived partially and that is why we have the Moody Blues clip. Maybe Peter Checksfield has some info. Either way, what a great record. Heard it a gazillion times and it still sounds ace !
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Post by ashleywood on Jul 22, 2019 11:23:07 GMT
I have copies of the BBC Artist contracts for their Top Of The Pops shows. There are 3 relating to this time period, these are the recording dates - 31 December 1964 in Manchester, this appears to have been a live broadcast or at least recorded and broadcast the same day. 7 January 1965 in London ampex in lieu, possibly broadcast on 14th ? 21 January 1965 in Scotland ampexed in lieu
so I'd assume whichever date the 21 January 1965 ampex was aired is probably the one. Popscene lists 21 Jan as a repeat and 28th Jan as "crowd dancing". It's gonna be one of those two but I can't say which one for sure.
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Post by ashleywood on May 13, 2019 12:27:19 GMT
Yep it does appear to be TYLS but apparently they didn't film Johnny Kidd. Rats.
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Post by ashleywood on Apr 12, 2019 11:31:52 GMT
Great stuff William. So in the interest of messing up your work I'd like to mention I have a handful of performances on a tape reel (audio) from the 25/05/65 British Song Contest -
Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers: ‘As Long As She Looks Like You’ The Moody Blues: ‘From The Bottom Of My Heart’ Wayne Fontana & The Mindbenders: ‘Long Time Comin’ Dave Berry: ‘Can I Get It From You’ Lulu & The Luvvers: ‘Leave A Little Love’ The Ivy League: ‘Tossing And Turning’
Let's call it 79 missing !
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Post by ashleywood on Mar 27, 2019 11:55:07 GMT
I'd be surprised if it is different. Much as I welcome ANY newly found footage, I confess that I can't get very excited over a silent, poor quality, filmed-from-TV, 11-second clip, of a song that already exists on film by The Beatles in approximately 7 other different versions. Of course, this performance (as their final appearance together on a regular TV show) is very important, but I've never quite regarded it as The Beatles' 'holy grail'. Among the other 'lost' songs they performed on TV are 'P.S. I Love You', 'Ask Me Why', 'Thank You Girl', 'Yes It Is' (3 times!) and 'Eight Days A Week'... any one of these would be a far more exciting find in my opinion, as would Ringo's 1969 solo performance of 'Octopus's Garden'. Have to agree with you on that Peter. I've never been particularly excited by the prospect of the 1966 TOTP clip when we already have so much film of the Fab4 miming those 2 songs multiple times (Paperback Writer / Rain). Don't get me wrong, any newly rediscovered film is fab but my Beatle holy grails on film would be one of the early (1962-63) TV shows, especially a live one or the 1965 Thank Your Lucky Stars which featured them miming Eight Days A Week and Yes It Is and Ticket To Ride. The latter show would be a massively exciting if unlikely find. I can't say Top Of The Pops excites me very much in general. Ready Steady Go, Wham!!, The Beat Room, Boy Meets Girls and Oh Boy would probably be my picks of lost or mostly lost 1950s / 60s TV shows because of the live aspect although TOTP certainly got more interesting when there was a live element. Some of the late 1966 / 67 line-ups are more than interesting. At the end of the day, every new find is terrific as long as we actually get to see it.
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Post by ashleywood on Feb 5, 2019 21:10:04 GMT
"Now" 4 March 1966 is another Yardbirds TV appearance I think. TWW show. "That's For Me" 1 Feb 1965 Rediffusion show.
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Post by ashleywood on Feb 4, 2019 22:12:31 GMT
TOTP For Your Love, there are contracts for 18 March, 25 March, 1 April and they Ampexed an appearance on 7th April, presumably for the 8th April 1965. These would all be For Your Love but the Popscene website could confirm this.
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Post by ashleywood on Feb 4, 2019 22:07:56 GMT
Hi William, I don't have access to all my research right now but they definitely did some TOTP to promote For Your Love. They def. did some RSG's with Clapton too, I think he left in March 65 ?
Your entry no.4 Fourth National Jaxx Festival BBC 1 Saturday 8 August 1964 10.15 - 11.15 pm From Richmond Surrey Missing. To the best of my knowledge they did not appear in that programme. There is no contract for it in their BBC Artist File and off the top of my head I'm 99% sure I checked the programme log for that show precisely because it was said that the Yardbirds appeared. I could well be wrong on that but I'm pretty confident. I think there is a tape of them at that show (?) but I don't believe that it originates from a BBC broadcast of that appearance either from radio or TV.
Many of those shows are mimes (TYLS, Cool Spot etc.) so not much of a loss in a way, at least in terms of audio. Several Ready Steady Go appearances are around as off air audio. Cool Spot tx 7/7/64 was pre-recorded on 25 June, The Yardbirds mimed I Wish You Would and A Certain Girl. Open House - did not appear on 8 August 64 - prob. combination of the Richmond Festival and Relf's illness (?). Open House 5 sept 64 they played live doing Little Queenie and I Can Tell. Top Beat 9/12/64 rec. 7/12/64 they played live - Here T'is (lasting 4.10). They didn't play at the Nov 64 concert / broadcast. Gadzooks was not tx on 26 Sept 65, it was the 27th but no Yardbirds (did have Manfred Mann and Bo Diddley though). I'll do some digging on the other stuff when I get the chance. I'm sure Peter can chime in !
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Post by ashleywood on Jan 25, 2019 8:02:31 GMT
Am I right in thinking then that the only Johnny Kidd footage in existence is the mute footage of the mid 60s line up? Or did I miss something? There are two clips in total. One is approximately 45 seconds featuring mute b/w footage of the "Mark 7" Pirates - Kidd, Johnny Spence, Frank Farley, Vic Cooper, John Moreshead in concert. No group shot, just the individual members are seen. The other clip is longer and features Kidd walking around Belfast near the docks. The other band members can be seen for a split second on a boat in the background. Both complete clips will be seen in full later this year, incomplete clips were featured in Julien Temple's Wilko Johnson doc. I have been chasing Kidd footage for around 7 years. Every possible lead has been followed up and is re-pursued on a regular basis. Unless someone has something in a private collection (such as an episode of Ready Steady Go or Wham!!) or an archive is yet to find some film awaiting digitisation, I have to admit that I'm not feeling optimistic that more footage will emerge. Not impossible but highly unlikely. I believe I "re-discovered" the live b/w footage in May 2013 and Julien Temple's research team for "The Ecstasy Of Wilko Johnson" located the second piece of film at the same archive. At the time, the latter piece of film was not catalogued. Having been in touch with various members of The Pirates and Kidd's family and friends, it doesn't appear that anyone took any 8mm, super 8, 16mm home movies of Kidd either or certainly not that anyone can remember. Even the crowd scenes at the various Variety Club Galas at Battersea Park (which Kidd attended and were filmed by Pathe) have been analysed for a glimpse of Kidd. Every possible (and several impossible) foreign broadcasters have also been contacted. The only TV appearance I've not been able to rule out 100% to date, is Kidd and The Pirates appearance on Beat In The Border circa late 1962 / early 1963. I have yet to receive any kind of communication from Border TV archive on that one. A reel to reel audio tape of that performance was said to exist (it was a live performance of several songs apparently) but was lost by Mick Green who had borrowed it ! His family had a look for me but were unable to find it. It is a tremendous shame that in particular, no footage exists of the two classic line-ups - the "Mark 2 Pirates" - Kidd, Alan Caddy, Brian Gregg and Clem Cattini and the "Mark 4" Pirates, Kidd, Mick Green, Johnny Spence and Frank Farley. Sadly, opportunities for pop TV were pretty limited from 1959 to 63 in particular, Kidd didn't do all that many TV shows and we all know what happened to the the tapes if there were any. I'm kind of surprised that a news clip hasn't survived relating to Kidd's death. Several people remember seeing one and the news feature apparently included a clip of him singing, possibly I'll Never Get Over You. Having said all that, the search continues for lost treasure.... BTW. I am also seeking any photographs of the first 1959 line-up and the mentioned Mark 7 line-up. After looking all this time, I have yet to see a photo of those two line-ups. It would appear that only Kidd was photographed in 1959 and following the last full band portrait circa mid 1965.
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Post by ashleywood on Jan 23, 2019 21:04:03 GMT
This information comes from BBC Genome for Saturday the 05/12/64 on BBC2 Joe Brown and his Bruvvers, Dick and Dee Dee, Ronnie Hilton, Kathy Kirby, Shelley and The Dancers, Eric Delaney. Peter Ustinov is also interviewed in this episode, which ran from 16..00 - 18.27 pm Dick and Dee were an American singing duo, male and female, very good, their Shalt Not Steal was great for the BBC to hold something of this series from 4 episodes, one being complete after 53 - 54 years is not bad This is what was played Shelley - I Will Be WIshing Dick and Dee Dee - Thou Shalt Not Steal Tony Osborne & Orchestra - When The Saints Go Marching In Ronnie Hilton - Falling In Love With Love / Twelfth Of Never Joe Brown and The Bruvvers - Waiting For The Robert E Lee / Samantha Kathy Kirby - Let There Be Love / I Wish You Love Eric Delaney - Manhattan Spiritual Tony Osborne - Open House Fugue
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Post by ashleywood on Jan 22, 2019 22:06:28 GMT
TV Brain has had a swift reply from the BBC BBC say this all they have: Film sequences from 11/7/64 Film item " Superstitions" from 15/8/64 Film item " Stanley Holloway" from 7/11/64 Complete PasB telerecording from 5/12/64 All b/w 16 mm Thank you to TV Brain and the BBC for this swift resolution Guessing TV Brain will be updated at some point to reflect this up to date information That's the info I got from a separate source so good to know everyone's singing from the same sheet music. I'll let you off this time William ! Putting the plank in my shed.
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Post by ashleywood on Jan 21, 2019 21:14:51 GMT
No probs William. I'm still trying to source a plank. Hardware store closed. Might have to wait until tomorrow.
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Post by ashleywood on Jan 21, 2019 13:52:37 GMT
Only the 5/12/64 and a couple of other clips from the series are held in BBC Archives as far as I can be told. Frustratingly, a clip from 7 Nov 1964 exists but it's not The Beach Boys. I hope you're not gonna have to walk the plank William ! If not, I will but I need to see the Kidd clip first !!
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