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Post by simonwells61 on Mar 24, 2019 19:48:49 GMT
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 24, 2019 21:36:50 GMT
Interesting.
It's a different picture to the one that Kaleidoscope used.
There is a David Chandler who liked this - obviously there are a lot of David Chandlers in the world, so i am not suggesting for a minute that it's the same one!
One could obviously try and contact this one - although he looks less than 50, so he wouldn't have been alive to film 8mm off the telly in 1966!
If he does have the whole footage, it's not going to make it better for the casual fan if he sells or tries to sell anything, as broadcasters (plural) loathe to pay to recover any footage they may have had.
But....it is a different picture and that's nagging at me....
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 24, 2019 21:37:30 GMT
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Post by simonwells61 on Mar 25, 2019 22:29:31 GMT
The screen-grab supplied to the Mirror doesn't relate to the 11 seconds as previewed earlier.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 26, 2019 21:55:38 GMT
The screen-grab supplied to the Mirror doesn't relate to the 11 seconds as previewed earlier. Are you sure?
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Post by petercheck on Mar 26, 2019 22:27:12 GMT
I'd be surprised if it is different.
Much as I welcome ANY newly found footage, I confess that I can't get very excited over a silent, poor quality, filmed-from-TV, 11-second clip, of a song that already exists on film by The Beatles in approximately 7 other different versions.
Of course, this performance (as their final appearance together on a regular TV show) is very important, but I've never quite regarded it as The Beatles' 'holy grail'. Among the other 'lost' songs they performed on TV are 'P.S. I Love You', 'Ask Me Why', 'Thank You Girl', 'Yes It Is' (3 times!) and 'Eight Days A Week'... any one of these would be a far more exciting find in my opinion, as would Ringo's 1969 solo performance of 'Octopus's Garden'.
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Post by ashleywood on Mar 27, 2019 11:55:07 GMT
I'd be surprised if it is different. Much as I welcome ANY newly found footage, I confess that I can't get very excited over a silent, poor quality, filmed-from-TV, 11-second clip, of a song that already exists on film by The Beatles in approximately 7 other different versions. Of course, this performance (as their final appearance together on a regular TV show) is very important, but I've never quite regarded it as The Beatles' 'holy grail'. Among the other 'lost' songs they performed on TV are 'P.S. I Love You', 'Ask Me Why', 'Thank You Girl', 'Yes It Is' (3 times!) and 'Eight Days A Week'... any one of these would be a far more exciting find in my opinion, as would Ringo's 1969 solo performance of 'Octopus's Garden'. Have to agree with you on that Peter. I've never been particularly excited by the prospect of the 1966 TOTP clip when we already have so much film of the Fab4 miming those 2 songs multiple times (Paperback Writer / Rain). Don't get me wrong, any newly rediscovered film is fab but my Beatle holy grails on film would be one of the early (1962-63) TV shows, especially a live one or the 1965 Thank Your Lucky Stars which featured them miming Eight Days A Week and Yes It Is and Ticket To Ride. The latter show would be a massively exciting if unlikely find. I can't say Top Of The Pops excites me very much in general. Ready Steady Go, Wham!!, The Beat Room, Boy Meets Girls and Oh Boy would probably be my picks of lost or mostly lost 1950s / 60s TV shows because of the live aspect although TOTP certainly got more interesting when there was a live element. Some of the late 1966 / 67 line-ups are more than interesting. At the end of the day, every new find is terrific as long as we actually get to see it.
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Post by petercheck on Apr 7, 2019 9:42:15 GMT
The screen-grab supplied to the Mirror doesn't relate to the 11 seconds as previewed earlier. Are you sure? So, is this a different clip or the same?
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Post by robertreinstein on Apr 7, 2019 22:28:48 GMT
So, is this a different clip or the same? The still i saw does not reflect the 11-second film.
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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Apr 8, 2019 9:25:41 GMT
I'd be surprised if it is different. Much as I welcome ANY newly found footage, I confess that I can't get very excited over a silent, poor quality, filmed-from-TV, 11-second clip, of a song that already exists on film by The Beatles in approximately 7 other different versions. Of course, this performance (as their final appearance together on a regular TV show) is very important, but I've never quite regarded it as The Beatles' 'holy grail'. Among the other 'lost' songs they performed on TV are 'P.S. I Love You', 'Ask Me Why', 'Thank You Girl', 'Yes It Is' (3 times!) and 'Eight Days A Week'... any one of these would be a far more exciting find in my opinion, as would Ringo's 1969 solo performance of 'Octopus's Garden'. Any recovery is welcome. I agree some are more equal than others. Any performance of a track that is not otherwise in the archive e.g. Yes It Is would be unbelievable. This leads me onto another issue. Availability versus wiping. Most of us are getting frustrated by the fact that there is tons of good stuff in the archives that will never see the light of day or just be used for a few brief seconds in a docu. e.g. I'd love to see the colour full length clip of Lola that the Kinks did on the Lulu show. A few second were used in a Kinks docu and that's it! So when I hear of some amazing recovery, I think to myself, will I ever get to see the full length clip.
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Apr 8, 2019 18:39:52 GMT
The cost of screening the entire song would take up over half the budget for the documentary on the Kinks sadly Hence why we only ever see tiny extracts
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Post by SydV on Apr 8, 2019 19:44:32 GMT
It's on the BBC website now... www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47854806Also "A missing episode of Top of the Pops from 1969, featuring an early cut of The Beatles' promotional video for their single Something, has also been discovered."
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Post by Liam Joseph on Apr 8, 2019 20:32:59 GMT
Also "A missing episode of Top of the Pops from 1969, featuring an early cut of The Beatles' promotional video for their single Something, has also been discovered." This one maybe? 13-11-69: Presenter: Alan Freeman (Wiped) (Exists as audio) (1) THE ARCHIES – Sugar Sugar (and charts) (NEW) MALCOLM ROBERTS – Love Is All (NEW) NANCY SINATRA – The Highway Song (video) (3) THE TREMELOES – (Call Me) Number One (2) FLEETWOOD MAC – Oh Well ® (12) JETHRO TULL – Sweet Dream * (6) THE BEATLES – Something (video) (1) THE ARCHIES – Sugar Sugar (crowd dancing) * although this show is wiped, this performance still exists Some of it already exists but any complete TOTP from this period would be great to see, if we get the chance.
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Post by robertreinstein on Apr 8, 2019 21:25:42 GMT
Also "A missing episode of Top of the Pops from 1969, featuring an early cut of The Beatles' promotional video for their single Something, has also been discovered." This one maybe? 13-11-69: Presenter: Alan Freeman (Wiped) (Exists as audio) (1) THE ARCHIES – Sugar Sugar (and charts) (NEW) MALCOLM ROBERTS – Love Is All (NEW) NANCY SINATRA – The Highway Song (video) (3) THE TREMELOES – (Call Me) Number One (2) FLEETWOOD MAC – Oh Well ® (12) JETHRO TULL – Sweet Dream * (6) THE BEATLES – Something (video) (1) THE ARCHIES – Sugar Sugar (crowd dancing) * although this show is wiped, this performance still exists Some of it already exists but any complete TOTP from this period would be great to see, if we get the chance. Yes, that's the one, though it does not have any links. only around 15 minutes survive. it includes the countdown, Nancy Sinatra, Beatles, Jethro Tull, and Fleetwood Mac segments. Contrary to what the list above says, the Jethro Tull and Fleetwood Mac are different performances than the ones that were shown on "Hits A Go Go".
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Post by Liam Joseph on Apr 8, 2019 22:43:28 GMT
Good that Jethro Tull and Fleetwood Mac are different performances to the existing ones. Hadn't TOTP gone colour by this point, and if so does the episode survive in colour?
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