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Post by Robert Kenyon on Apr 3, 2014 2:14:00 GMT
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Apr 3, 2014 4:38:40 GMT
Nice. That film apparently was on BFI's Top 75 list. :3 I'd be interested in seeing it some day. The images presented are extraordinary.
Netherlands started their Who with Baker era in the 70s. It's unlikely anything missing is there.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Apr 3, 2014 5:43:40 GMT
Seeing as both british, and American troops were stationed in Germany this might be a place to search ?
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Post by Simon Bolton on Apr 3, 2014 8:18:14 GMT
The film is 80 years old and nitrate stock according to Radio 4, thought lost forever and looks a real gem. Wonder if it will be available on iTunes? Lot of hope for more Who episodes which are a comparatively youthful 50 years. Fantastic.
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Post by simonashby on Apr 3, 2014 9:14:01 GMT
The film is 80 years old and nitrate stock according to Radio 4, thought lost forever and looks a real gem. Wonder if it will be available on iTunes? Lot of hope for more Who episodes which are a comparatively youthful 50 years. Fantastic. Why does it give a lot more hope? Something like the original BBC enterprise documents turning up and showing more sales than we thought... that would give more hope. All this proves is that a copy of this particular film existed all along! It doesn't change anything as far as Doctor Who is concerned. |
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Post by Simon Bolton on Apr 3, 2014 15:55:59 GMT
Ah, it's just the romantic optimist in me. If a gem of a British silent film can turn up in an abandoned Dutch cinema after 80 years and in reasonably good nick then I can still continue to dream that somewhere out there is a stack of cans with Fury From The Deep and my name on them.
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Post by Richard Marple on Apr 3, 2014 18:53:39 GMT
Well done to all involved with this discovery.
It's nice to know there are some material still to be found.
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Post by George D on Apr 3, 2014 19:21:51 GMT
I am sure more missing material will show up.we just can't pick what it will be our if it will be dr who
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Post by Alex Dering on Apr 4, 2014 15:02:35 GMT
The fact is that the Netherlands is just as likely as pretty much any other first-world nation you might care to pick. Person X moves from England to some country where they never aired the first two Doctors. Person X, however, was one of the people who went Dumpster diving and has several missing episodes. The private collectors -- and upon their deaths, their collections could end up anywhere, a local historical society, with other collectors, etc. -- are beyond logic; we cannot "deduce" where episodes are not, unless we actually look and then cross those searched areas off. "Yup. Checked all the transfer stations in Nigeria except one. So they're all empty. Someone else wants to check that one over in Jos, he's welcome to it."
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Post by John Green on Apr 4, 2014 16:37:09 GMT
The film is 80 years old and nitrate stock according to Radio 4, thought lost forever and looks a real gem. Wonder if it will be available on iTunes? Lot of hope for more Who episodes which are a comparatively youthful 50 years. Fantastic. Why does it give a lot more hope? Something like the original BBC enterprise documents turning up and showing more sales than we thought... that would give more hope. All this proves is that a copy of this particular film existed all along! It doesn't change anything as far as Doctor Who is concerned. Simon,in a way,that "existed all along" comment sums it up for me.Obvious,I know,but if EotW turns up in 2012 or 13,it justifies the faith we had in 2011,2010...1989,1988,etc.We were right all along that there were more out there.Every year increases the likelihood that particular episodes will be junked.And yet! What might have turned up in a proper going-and-looking search twenty or thirty years ago,rather than a fairly casual "If you get a chance,old chap?" letters? |
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Post by shellyharman67 on Apr 4, 2014 16:53:52 GMT
Why does it give a lot more hope? Something like the original BBC enterprise documents turning up and showing more sales than we thought... that would give more hope. All this proves is that a copy of this particular film existed all along! It doesn't change anything as far as Doctor Who is concerned. Simon,in a way,that "existed all along" comment sums it up for me.Obvious,I know,but if EotW turns up in 2012 or 13,it justifies the faith we had in 2011,2010...1989,1988,etc.We were right all along that there were more out there.Every year increases the likelihood that particular episodes will be junked.And yet! What might have turned up in a proper going-and-looking search twenty or thirty years ago,rather than a fairly casual "If you get a chance,old chap?" letters? Was there not a showing of the savages in 1984 somewhere ? If it had been done a bit better the number of missing would be a lot less ! |
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Post by Sue Butcher on Apr 5, 2014 23:18:21 GMT
The Savages was thought to have had an unauthorised 1980s repeat in Sierra Leone, but their TV archives were supposed destroyed in a later civil war. These "facts" are unsupported by hard evidence. I'm not saying it isn't true, but it's disputed.
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Post by George D on Apr 7, 2014 9:38:49 GMT
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Post by John Green on Apr 7, 2014 16:18:04 GMT
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Post by Simon Bolton on May 2, 2014 9:05:34 GMT
There's an interesting article in today's Guardian concerning the recovery of a couple of "lost" short films by Peter Sellers. They were rescued from a skip after having spent years in a cleaners' cupboard in a London office block. The guy who recovered them had initially thought the canisters contained the pads for the floor cleaning machines. Who knows what else is still out there! And possibly nearer than we think.
The article is very good on lost films in general and particularly concerning the idea of how do you prove a negative?
And the moral is, obviously, never give up hope!
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