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Post by Adam Duncan on Sept 21, 2003 9:47:52 GMT
I have a couple of questions about this show. Is Kaledioscope Publishing's book on the show still available? Also, I understand that clips were recovered from the Australian censors. What episodes were these from and how long are they? Why were they not included on the OOTU clips tape. An extract from Liar! was also missing. This featured workers gathering round a production line. Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by The Prophet on Sept 21, 2003 17:06:14 GMT
So far as I know the book hasn't been published yet.
As a fan of OOTU I am looking forward to seeing it.
What is the clips tape you refer to?
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Post by Adam Duncan on Sept 21, 2003 17:16:14 GMT
A clips tape was compiled last year and featured the closing titles from Fox and the Forest and Andover and the Android, the film sequences from Andover and surviving clips from Satisfaction Guaranteed and Liar!.
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Post by C Perry on Sept 22, 2003 15:38:32 GMT
Hi We've had numerous problems with the OOTU book, including hard drive damage, and Richard's sad death, but the final proof copy is just about to go to the author Mark Ward so fingers crossed it should appear before 2004!!  Chris Perry Kaleidoscope |
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Post by Julian Knott on Sept 24, 2003 19:32:54 GMT
Great news about the OOTU book, Chris. I'm really looking forward to seeing it! Let me know if I you want me to give it a plug on my website ( www.zetaminor.com). |
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Post by Colin Cutler on Sept 24, 2003 21:54:27 GMT
I understand that clips were recovered from the Australian censors. What episodes were these from and how long are they? Some details on surviving clips still unclear, but for the record: Australian Censor Clips - sadly very brief, comprising a 'blink and you'll miss it' shot of a stabbing from Immortality Inc ( Season 3 ) and a 33 second 'strangulation' sequence from The Last Witness ( Season 4 ) Satisfaction Guaranteed - the complete sequence runs to approx 2.30 minutes ( and derives from the 1967 documentary series Towards Tomororrow ). It was later trimmed down to about 1 min for a feature on Robotics on BBC 2's The Late Show, and I gather that its this shortened version that does the rounds. Liar! - Yes, at least two known sequences - both of which were trimmed for appearances on The Late Show and Future Fantastic. The full extent of these clips - and the ( early 70's? ) documentary from which they were originally lifted - is unfortunately still not known. Colin |
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Post by Adam Duncan on Sept 25, 2003 15:25:42 GMT
I didn't know the Satisfaction Guaranteed clip was longer. Does it continue from where the short version ends is or does it start earlier on in the scene?
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Post by Colin Cutler on Sept 26, 2003 0:55:34 GMT
I didn't know the Satisfaction Guaranteed clip was longer. Does it continue from where the short version ends is or does it start earlier on in the scene? Basically what you've seen is the 'middle' section of the sequence ( although the Late Show 'cut' has had some shots and dialogue edited out as well ). The full sequence begins with the group assembling together in the livingroom of the Belmont's house ( some voiceover here by Asimov ) and continues through to Dr Jensen's description of the robots superior 'brain' ; clip ends with with Wendy Craig's character being asked if she is still unsure about the experiment taking place in their household. About 2 and a half mins in all ( although topped and tailed by some voiceover ) Colin |
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Post by stephen on Oct 5, 2004 23:52:28 GMT
I have a copy of the episode "To Lay A Ghost".I've heard the episode does not exist?...It does!..
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Post by stephen on Oct 5, 2004 23:53:58 GMT
My email is
stevielennon5@eircom.net
I would like to hear from someone who can let me know if I possess a rare item or not..
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Post by Laurence Piper on Oct 6, 2004 10:28:09 GMT
To Lay A Ghost definitely exists at the BBC and has also been doing the rounds for many years on "the circuit".
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Post by Stuart on Oct 6, 2004 10:29:41 GMT
According to 625.org this episode exists as Colour 2" 625-line PAL video tape.
Stuart
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Post by Nick Cooper on Oct 12, 2004 18:27:45 GMT
According to 625.org this episode exists as Colour 2" 625-line PAL video tape. Ironic that such a shameful piece of misogynistic crap exists, but The Chopper doesn't. |
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Post by Stuart on Oct 13, 2004 15:08:33 GMT
Ironic that such a shameful piece of misogynistic crap exists, but The Chopper doesn't. Indeed. Most of the missing OOU sounds considerably better than this rather sordid offering. |
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Post by John Miller on Oct 19, 2004 20:24:54 GMT
I agree I feel that 'The chopper' was a superior entry to 'To lay a ghost'. As for the mysodgonistic undertones, I would agree that this aspect could be perceived, but bear in mind the piece was structured and delivered in a different era with a different set of values. Much of Brian Clemens work i.e. Avengers (later episodes), thriller, feature repetitive themes featuring the terrorising of central female characters. The pieces observed on their other merits though, stand up. Reading the politically correct criteria of present day into an old drama & weighing all its other merits on this is not really an effective way of judging the piece, given its historic context. 'To lay a ghost' with its crude hip joke title & some comic strip style imagery I feel enhance the sense of the time in which it was made. It does stand as a good piece of pop art, and the central theme of the seduction by a ghost remains chilling & has been used since in the cinema environment to critical acclaim. Thats what I feel about that piece anyway.
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