What's this I hear about Steve Roberts tearing up a list?

[Simon Jailler]

I've just read Ian Levine kicking off on his Twitter feed about Steve Roberts tearing up a piece of paper with a list on it. Any more details or witnesses out there, Folks?

[John Green]

Ah ha.I was pondering starting a thread on this subject.Are you sure we should?


During a debate on missing episodes.Ian refered to it in his resumed tweets,after a moratorium of about 24 hours!

[Simon Jailler]

I was hoping for a more measured response than that Twitter feed from one of the many wise heads who frequent these pages and some hard facts.

[John Green]

Feb 16, 2014 18:33:54 GMT Simon Jailler said:

I was hoping for a more measured response than that Twitter feed from one of the many wise heads who frequent these pages and some hard facts.

I like to know what happened,for a start.A panel on missing episodes at a Doctor Who con (?) and the list was of supposed newly-recovered episodes (?) and torn up to indicate that all the mega-rumours are hooey?

[Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy]

Steve Roberts will have to give his account, but from what I understand he was reading a list of episodes supposedly back and then tore the document. I am assuming it's a response to any suggestion that serials have been restored. He has continuously denied anything has been restored.

[Simon Jailler]

I'd never show any disrespect to Steve Roberts. Just curious about what went on.

[shellyharman67]

Feb 16, 2014 19:48:58 GMT Simon Jailler said:

I'd never show any disrespect to Steve Roberts. Just curious about what went on.

Its warming up on his tweets now ! I really hope everything is back and we can start to talk about the weather instead !

[Brad Phipps]

Feb 16, 2014 18:24:09 GMT Simon Jailler said:

I've just read Ian Levine kicking off on his Twitter feed about Steve Roberts tearing up a piece of paper with a list on it.

"Dozen eggs, two milk, a kilo of cheese- NO WOMAN, WRITE THE SHOPPING LIST AGAIN!"

[brianfretwell]

I wonder if it was a list of the things he said he'd eat his hat if they happened, as with colour recovery working?

1. Whole story being found.
2........
:-)

[John Green]

Until we find out what,if anything,was said,it's a Zen moment.

[Rob Moss]

This appears to be a fairly accurate representation of what happened.

[Marty Schultz]

doctorwhomindrobber.com/2014/02/17/doctor-who-missing-episodes-steve-roberts-clarifies-list-ripping-incident-believes-marco-polo-found/
Whoops. Didn't realise Rob had already posted the link directly above^

[George D]

While dismissing the rumor s, it's still nice to know there is hope for more.

Is that picture from when they threw films out?

I never saw the skip process before.

[johnforbes]

I've had a look at the interview with Steve, thanks Marty for the post.

Obviously, it's a very interesting piece and Steve is a senior guy whose words carry some weight.

However, just because MP was sold to more countries than any other, it DOES NOT mean it is more likely to be found than any other. We have 4 eps of DMP, and that wasn't sold anywhere. Besides, MP went around in the same bicycle chains that all of the others did so it was just passed on more, but it WAS passed on and NOT kept.

PM has said in an early interview that he has DW's fans' best interests at heart. He has also stated via his site last summer that TIEA hold NO MORE eps of DW. If Steve is saying, without one shred of evidence, having (apparently) seen not one more can of film of any TV material whatsoever than anyone else, that PM has got more eps of DW, then frankly I call that absolutely brilliant speculation.

IF, and that is a MASSIVE if, PM has got anything else apart from the 2 TSAN's, 11 DW's and the can of tar that was a M&W in a previous life, all of which he handed back in, plus an ep of Basil Brush that he has not handed back in, then PM was obviously lying in making that public statement and nothing that he says in the future will ever be able to be believed.

And IF, PM has got anything else, far from "having DW's best interests at heart", by lying, and then waiting (insert number of months) to hand whatever back, letting people closely associated with the making of/acting in, those episodes, die before getting the chance to see them again, FAR from showing he had DW's fans' best interests at heart, he'd be showing everyone that he only has PM's pocket at heart.

Even as a fan who is wanting some sort of return on your find, could YOU be THAT heartless just to keep a secret ?

If MP is back, as Steve believes and suggests to the public that it is, then it is highly likely that other missing episodes were found with it, specifically, Crusade and Reign.

Personally, on one hand I would like to think that by coming out with his statements, SR is being a little conservative with the truth and knows for sure that MP is back and he wants to get the ball rolling a little quicker.

But, given that it is human nature to burst rather than keep a secret, that not one person has claimed to have seen one more can of anything whatsoever, then personally, I FIRMLY believe that PM has got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LEFT.

"I used to believe in the omnirumour but then reality kicked in" !!

[shellyharman67]

Feb 18, 2014 7:16:15 GMT johnforbes said:

I've had a look at the interview with Steve, thanks Marty for the post.

Obviously, it's a very interesting piece and Steve is a senior guy whose words carry some weight.

However, just because MP was sold to more countries than any other, it DOES NOT mean it is more likely to be found than any other. We have 4 eps of DMP, and that wasn't sold anywhere. Besides, MP went around in the same bicycle chains that all of the others did so it was just passed on more, but it WAS passed on and NOT kept.

PM has said in an early interview that he has DW's fans' best interests at heart. He has also stated via his site last summer that TIEA hold NO MORE eps of DW. If Steve is saying, without one shred of evidence, having (apparently) seen not one more can of film of any TV material whatsoever than anyone else, that PM has got more eps of DW, then frankly I call that absolutely brilliant speculation.

IF, and that is a MASSIVE if, PM has got anything else apart from the 2 TSAN's, 11 DW's and the can of tar that was a M&W in a previous life, all of which he handed back in, plus an ep of Basil Brush that he has not handed back in, then PM was obviously lying in making that public statement and nothing that he says in the future will ever be able to be believed.

And IF, PM has got anything else, far from "having DW's best interests at heart", by lying, and then waiting (insert number of months) to hand whatever back, letting people closely associated with the making of/acting in, those episodes, die before getting the chance to see them again, FAR from showing he had DW's fans' best interests at heart, he'd be showing everyone that he only has PM's pocket at heart.

Even as a fan who is wanting some sort of return on your find, could YOU be THAT heartless just to keep a secret ?

If MP is back, as Steve believes and suggests to the public that it is, then it is highly likely that other missing episodes were found with it, specifically, Crusade and Reign.

Personally, on one hand I would like to think that by coming out with his statements, SR is being a little conservative with the truth and knows for sure that MP is back and he wants to get the ball rolling a little quicker.

But, given that it is human nature to burst rather than keep a secret, that not one person has claimed to have seen one more can of anything whatsoever, then personally, I FIRMLY believe that PM has got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LEFT.

"I used to believe in the omnirumour but then reality kicked in" !!

PM has not exactly come out and put pen to paper and said beyond doubt there is nothing either ! Like you john, i will believe it when i see it !