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Post by Neil Megson on Feb 11, 2014 15:27:19 GMT
If, in a purely hypothetical situation, a thread on these boards was deemed by the moderators to have got out of hand or run its course, would it be possible just to remove all posts and leave the thread locked with 0 posts ? Even a brief explanation as to why this had happened might prevent members wondering if they had imagined certain threads which no longer seemed to exist.
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Post by scotttelfer on Feb 11, 2014 15:41:11 GMT
Not too sure it would be possible, for starters it would depend on the thread actually having been deleted in the first place, many places just "move" the thread to a private part of the forum for the moderators to examine if it truly has gotten out of hand.
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Post by Rob Moss on Feb 11, 2014 16:14:34 GMT
I can't imagine a situation where every single post would need to be removed, but the thread left on the board. If that did need to happen, I suspect what I'd do would be reply with a message explaining what had happened, then delete all except my own post. Far more likely that it would just be locked and left with the posts in there, or completely removed if there was nothing of merit, however.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 11, 2014 16:19:22 GMT
They end up in someone's sock drawer....  |
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Post by johnforbes on Feb 11, 2014 16:38:23 GMT
I can't imagine a situation where every single post would need to be removed, but the thread left on the board. If that did need to happen, I suspect what I'd do would be reply with a message explaining what had happened, then delete all except my own post. Far more likely that it would just be locked and left with the posts in there, or completely removed if there was nothing of merit, however. The Levine thread was in excess of 20 pages. Logged on and found it had been exterminated by a dalek. No explanations no nothing. |
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Feb 11, 2014 16:55:41 GMT
There was a thread a few weeks ago asking which Pertwee stories we would like to have junked in exchange for other missing stories,and that was deleted after just a few hours thank goodness.I was incensed!If the thread had carried on I would have demanded the mods close it down!For me,his era is just fantastic and the thought of destroying what took so long to to recover and restore as pure conjecture was just the last straw!
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Post by Rob Moss on Feb 11, 2014 17:41:41 GMT
If you're ever in doubt about why something has been deleted, look at the forum rules, and in many cases it should be obvious. Also, remember that this is a forum about missing episodes, not general Dr Who chit-chat. But on the whole, it's usually safe to assume that we will come down on abusive, insulting posts (that includes posts accusing people of being a liar), speculation about people's finances or personal information which is none of our business, or basically any other kind of nastiness that you wouldn't feel comfortable saying about your own mother. Inflammatory posts that add nothing to the discussion but are clearly intended to wind people up are also likely to be deleted, at the Mods' discretion.
As always, if you have feedback about moderation decisions, please PM one of the moderators rather than hauling us up about it on the forum.
Hope this helps.
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Post by Rich Hughes on Feb 11, 2014 18:07:13 GMT
A few threads just kept going over the same old ground interesting though they are to read Things are getting very out of hand on Ian Levine's Twitter page the last week or so I think some things need to be considered regarding the possible recovery of a vast number of missing episodes which may calm things down and stop us going around in circles. I will try not to stray into the rumours doing the rounds. First of all I still don't think that many people realise the amount of time and effort involved in restoring a 60's episode, the DWM article detailing the restoration of Enemy and Web stated that it takes 10-14 days to restore 1 episode, frame by frame, so let's just call it 2 weeks per episode, this would mean that if working flat out around 25 episodes can be restored in 1 year, at this rate it could take up to 4 years to restore the number of episodes that are missing to the high standard we know, not to mention the added time restoring any better quality/stored field duplicates. Bearing this in mind, if PM did just hand them all over to the BBC then I very much doubt whether the Beeb would be prepared to wait nearly 4 years before everything had been restored/released. They would want an instant return on them, in which case it's more likely they would just rush release stuff, after all, an un-restored version of Evil of The Daleks or Fury From The Deep would still sell very well. A lack of extra's on Enemy/Web is one thing but it would be only 1 more small step to put stuff out with no restoration at all. When Bleeding Cool reported the rumours back in June it was said 'whoever holds these films wants them to be treated properly, restored and vid-fired', true this was said when it was believed that an eccentric engineer had the episodes but this could still hold weight as PM had Enemy and Web restored before they were handed to the BBC for release. As for the episodes having been back since 2011 which is what Ian Levine is touting on Twitter, even if this is the case I don't think we would have seen any of them any earlier than we have so far, if a proper job was to be done restoring them that is. Let's not forget that The Restoration Team members who worked on Enemy and Web would very likely have been very busy in 2011 & 2012 working on The Aztecs SE, The Reign of Terror, The Tenth Planet, The Ice Warriors, The Krotons, The Moonbase, THe Underwater Menace, Spearhead From Space BR, The Ambassadors of Death, Inferno SE, The Mind of Evil, The Claws of Axos SE, The Daemons and Terror of the Zygons to name but a few. So it's not very likely that even if these episodes had been with PM since 2011 that work would be halted on planned releases in order to start on something else, missing or not. Therefore, if the dates we have for when work was started on Enemy during April 2013, then it's reasonable to assume that this was the earliest time that additional material could be restored as work on the last few DVD releases would have been as good as finished. Taking all of this into account helps to understand why things may appear to be moving slowly, as well as the fact that despite what some may say I do believe that PM does have fans best interests at heart, to do the job right it's going to take time, if anymore episodes have been found we want to look their best. A watched kettle never boils! |
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Post by John Wall on Feb 11, 2014 18:59:37 GMT
I think we're in a time loop.......
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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 11, 2014 20:37:07 GMT
I think we're in a time loop....... Agree john. And if only threads about missing episodes, we would surely only have one thread ? It all can be dealt with in one thread ! Would that be boring ? Its like going round a roundabout and the steering gets locked ! Sad that Shirley Temple has Died  |
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Post by Simon Jailler on Feb 11, 2014 22:38:23 GMT
So any explanation then please for the disapperarance of the Ian Levine thread?
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Post by lousingh on Feb 11, 2014 22:53:32 GMT
Could we at least have the cogent information from the Ian Levine thread somewhere? I am thinking of Neil Lambess mentioning that he was required to sign an NDA by the BBC until "The Lion" was in the BBC's hands. There was one from Paul Vanezis that was really insightful and another about how long the cleaning of the episodes takes. Having that somewhere as a reference (pinned if possible) would be nice.
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Post by Simon Jailler on Feb 11, 2014 23:09:01 GMT
On the whole, it's a pleasure to participate on these pages so I'd hate to incur the wrath of the Mods. I thought that when posts very occasionally overheat, the thread gets locked down with a friendly/amusing note from the Mod concerned.
The disappearance of IL's recent tweets and the 20 page IL thread going into the Mod Triangle are probably not unrelated so I'll leave it there and hope for some inspiration for a fresh, new, topical thread that steers clear of m'learned friends.
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Post by Sue Butcher on Feb 12, 2014 1:26:53 GMT
Could we at least have the cogent information from the Ian Levine thread somewhere? I am thinking of Neil Lambess mentioning that he was required to sign an NDA by the BBC until "The Lion" was in the BBC's hands. There was one from Paul Vanezis that was really insightful and another about how long the cleaning of the episodes takes. Having that somewhere as a reference (pinned if possible) would be nice. I agree. Quite a bit of interesting stuff about the Taiwan find was in this thread. |
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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 12, 2014 6:54:58 GMT
So any explanation then please for the disapperarance of the Ian Levine thread? Kind of thought about that as well ! |
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