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Post by Marie Griffiths on Sept 16, 2013 20:34:53 GMT
Can someone put a beginners guide to what to keep.
I am going through some old videos.
I am recording adverts and continuity before 1990 as I assume it is kept after that.
I am also keeping programmes that have been locked forever in archives due to rights issues or which are mentioned in the lost shows database. (Still searching on the last) I found the film Nothing Lasts Forever, A TVS Steam documentary both locked in rights issues plus continuity and adverts from the central region. The later posted on YouTube as there is no commercial value to them.
I would welcome constructive criticism.
Please post under your real name please, "Marie Griffiths", as per forum rules! Thanks.
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Post by Robert Lia on Sept 16, 2013 22:47:48 GMT
I would suggest keeping stuff that you know or think will never be repeated or released on DVD. For example here in the USA I saved over a thousand episodes of the CBS / ABC soap opera "The Edge of Night" which ran from 1956-84. That has never been released on DVD and a the one partial repeat of episodes from June 1981 to December 1984 ended in January 1989 and has been since forgotten.
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Post by Robert Lia on Sept 16, 2013 22:52:48 GMT
and to follow that up. I had originally recorded it on Betamax format, In 2004 I transferred them to DVD +RW / -R ect and this weekend when I went to fire up my SONY Betamax's all of them no longer want to play the recordings so the machines are being junked. In short don't wait to long as you never know when the equipment is going to finally start to break down.
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Post by Marie Griffiths on Sept 16, 2013 22:54:54 GMT
I just got really excited finding a copy of Moonbase 3. However this was the Sci-fi channel version.
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Post by Robert Lia on Sept 17, 2013 0:16:37 GMT
It has been released on R2 DVD a few years back. I have it. Yes if the Doctor Who Restoration Team could get ahold of those tapes and do there magic it would be great
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Post by Alex Taylor on Sept 17, 2013 10:31:50 GMT
If you have off-airs from the 80s, please keep an eye out for 'Fraggle Rock'. Many of the UK episodes (the ones with the lighthouse) are missing - see www.nightshade.org.uk/fraggleuk.html for details. If you find anything, please drop me a line! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 12:00:19 GMT
I wouldn't assume either that all continuity etc. will have been kept from 1990 onwards. Often it isn't recorded, unless on the start / end of live programmes. Same with ads as often off-air copies for even more recent examples seem to be what are sourced for documentaries (suggesting that either the originals are lost or inaccessible). As a general rule though (and talking here from about mid '80s onwards, which is roughly when most VHS home recordings will date from), keep all continuity from any era (especially in-vision links), live broadcasts, regional programming of any genre / description, anything made for BSB, anything by companies locked in rights limbo (e.g. TVS), children's TV links, regional news programmes etc. If you have recordings from before 1982, keep anything at all from defunct companies such as Southern, Westward, ATV etc. particularly any continuity links, regional programmes, local news, start-ups / closedowns etc.
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Post by Robert Lia on Sept 17, 2013 20:08:57 GMT
You might want to look farther back than that, In the USA for example we had Betamax as early as 1975 and VHS since 1977. My oldest recording that I still have for some reason is the 3 hour premire of Battlestat Galactica onbn ABC-TV from September 1978.
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Post by Richard Marple on Sept 17, 2013 22:30:59 GMT
You might want to look farther back than that, In the USA for example we had Betamax as early as 1975 and VHS since 1977. My oldest recording that I still have for some reason is the 3 hour premire of Battlestat Galactica onbn ABC-TV from September 1978. Does it include the newsflash about the signing of the Camp David Agreement? |
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Post by John Brew on Sept 18, 2013 1:24:40 GMT
I would suggest keeping stuff that you know or think will never be repeated or released on DVD. For example here in the USA I saved over a thousand episodes of the CBS / ABC soap opera "The Edge of Night" which ran from 1956-84. That has never been released on DVD and a the one partial repeat of episodes from June 1981 to December 1984 ended in January 1989 and has been since forgotten. Wow Robert! Over a thousand episodes of EON. What a great show! That was one of my favorite soaps. You probably already know it, but Proctor & Gamble wiped and reused most of the videotapes of all their soaps prior to 1979. So if you have anything prior to that, you may have the only existing copy. Some things were kept like the Serena Farraday trial, but most of it is gone. I sure wish that we could see all the old episodes from the 50's, 60's & 70's. I know some old kinescopes exist of some of the episodes from the 50's, but I haven't sought them out yet. One day. I would definitely agree that I would keep any recordings of anything unique that is unlikely to be repeated. Also I would hold on to anything held up by rights issues, any live broadcasts and any regional programming which may not have been kept for posterity. I have some old videos of my own that I really need to go through and copy on to DVD before there is nothing left of the tapes or my VCR stops working. Time to uncover some long forgotten treasures. |
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Post by Robert Lia on Sept 18, 2013 2:53:42 GMT
I edited out the commercials as far as I can remember, were in California which was Pacific Standard Time so probably no.
as for The Edge of Night I have episodes from July 79 plus some that were recorded of off ABC-TV or CBS-TV. The ending of the Serena Faraday trial was quite creepy. I also liked the Louis Van Dyne mind control story line from 1983
Stuff like that is likely to come out on DVD
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2013 8:02:55 GMT
We had Betamax and VHS at roughly the same time, Robert. It's just that the real boom in home video in the UK didn't really happen until the '80s (although there are plenty of domestic recordings around from the mid '70s onwards, particularly on Philips and U-Matic formats, which are also very much of interest if anyone has some!).
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Post by Ken Griffin on Sept 18, 2013 8:47:16 GMT
You should retain any programmes produced prior to 1990 by any of the small ITV regions - Ulster, Border, Grampian and Channel.
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Post by briancook on Sept 20, 2013 18:46:37 GMT
which TVS steam doc was it please?
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Post by Marie Griffiths on Sept 21, 2013 1:38:00 GMT
which TVS steam doc was it please? Night Mail II. The remake of the 50's film which ironically exists everywhere. It has been released by the BFI now after being locking in TVS rights limbo. I also have the Steoptoe and Son from the mid eighties screenings, I know they exists as DVDs but fear they might be edited for political correctness. I have lots of Cental continuity and closedowns. Documentary Citizen Bull, Old News. Documentary Backbencher about Roger King. Sue Cook in 'Having a Baby.' I have a 1983 Christmas TOTP and 1983 Christmas Des O'Conner show that I am not recording unless someone shouts now. |
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