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Post by richardwoods on Nov 4, 2013 19:57:19 GMT
Yep I know, a bit early 70s sadly
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Post by Greg H on Nov 4, 2013 20:45:09 GMT
Be nice if it was Ace of Wands eh Greg? Seven serpents sulphur & salt would do nicely! Yes indeed!! I would love to see anything from the first couple seasons of Ace of wands! Here's hoping something pops up one day edit* Doh!!! this is a 60s episode of something or other rendering it impossible to be ace of wands. I have no idea what it could be. Hopefully we will find out in due course Hopefully some more ace of wands will turn up behind someone's fridge or something..........
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Post by richardwoods on Nov 5, 2013 6:36:03 GMT
I did read somewhere that Seven serpents was the only serial from the first 2 seasons to still be advertised by Thames for export (and hopefully still survive) in the late 70s. I did ask before on the forum if those who remembered watching it in NZ and Aus when series 3 was shown if they could remember Seven Serpents being shown with it but no reply unfortunately.
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Post by Greg H on Nov 5, 2013 10:37:44 GMT
Hmm, it's an interesting one and I suspect someone will already have done the leg work to see if prints were actually made or exported anywhere of the first 2 series. I wonder who would be in possession of that information.....? Having a dig around, I see that John Preddle states that only season 3 ever screened in New zealand; he is a pretty reliable source. Maybe I should read back through Andrew Pixley's booklet on the subject.
There have been rumours of some ace of wands in a private collection that I have heard once or twice, but as usual with these things, there are no concrete details and as such it should be treated as highly suspect.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 10:38:05 GMT
Ace Of Wands series 1 and 2 are quite high on the list of shows I'd like to see again. It would be good if just one of the stories turned up to represent that era.
If Seven Serpents was indeed the only season 1 / 2 story to be sold abroad, it would mean that the only other sources for possible recoveries were either off-air videos, made but unused sales prints or the uncovering of previously unknown quads. As with Barry Wom, I'm living in hope (although I'm not expecting any episodes to turn up imminently or anything)!
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Post by richardwoods on Nov 5, 2013 10:42:40 GMT
Be nice if it was Ace of Wands eh Greg? Seven serpents sulphur & salt would do nicely! Yes indeed!! I would love to see anything from the first couple seasons of Ace of wands! Here's hoping something pops up one day edit* Doh!!! this is a 60s episode of something or other rendering it impossible to be ace of wands. I have no idea what it could be. Hopefully we will find out in due course Hopefully some more ace of wands will turn up behind someone's fridge or something.......... Didn't production start on season 1 in 1969. It would qualify then! wishful thinking on my part I feel!
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Post by Greg H on Nov 5, 2013 10:48:54 GMT
Ace Of Wands series 1 and 2 are quite high on the list of shows I'd like to see again. It would be good if just one of the stories turned up to represent that era. If Seven Serpents was indeed the only season 1 / 2 story to be sold abroad, it would mean that the only other sources for possible recoveries were either off-air videos, made but unused sales prints or the uncovering of previously unknown quads. I live in hope! I didn't have the pleasure of watching the first two seasons at the time. I have heard that they were the strongest stories though (as much as I like season 3). It could be another case similar to what the Troughton era suffered from prior to recovery of tomb and the two recent ones, that of not having it's best material represented at all! I suppose also, the further into the 70s something was broadcast, the higher the statistical chance of a domestic recording having been made. No guarantees, but it is something to keep an eye out for.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 11:09:22 GMT
I didn't have the pleasure of watching the first two seasons at the time. I have heard that they were the strongest stories though (as much as I like season 3). It could be another case similar to what the Troughton era suffered from prior to recovery of tomb and the two recent ones, that of not having it's best material represented at all! That's quite possibly true, yes. I can particularly recall Eye Of Ra and (to a lesser degree) Seven Serpents but nothing else specific other than the regular team of Loe and Selby. They stayed in my mind afterwards and I always felt at the time that the later format with Markham and Holder was weaker (although the standard of stories was consistent all through, with a couple of classics in series 3). My perception is that series 1 was more thriller based (e.g. Freewheelers / Avengers) - albeit with weirdness in the nature of the villains - with series 2 bringing in more genuine fantasy / paranormal elements. It's one of the few well-remembered shows from that period where it's definitive era / format is not represented by anything at all (not even a clip), which is very sad indeed.
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Post by richardwoods on Nov 5, 2013 14:00:16 GMT
I can remember watching the first 2 series and enjoying them but again apart from recalling the regular team the only one that I remember well was Seven Serpents. The blurb on the DVD release was spot on about kids playing "hand of stabs" in the playground! Ref the export paperwork, I read someone's blog some time ago which said that they had seen Thames paperwork in the early 1980s dated in the late 70s offering Seven Serpents with series 3 as available for export copies. Unfortunately I don't know where I saw it, it may have been from a link on the Ace of Wands Website but last time I looked it was down for maintenance.
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Post by John Green on Nov 5, 2013 15:09:20 GMT
Yes,but who was the "Banana Man"? (Chuckle).
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Post by richardwoods on Nov 5, 2013 17:45:47 GMT
Mystic and a banana man too! No end to the guys talents
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Post by Patrick Coles on Nov 6, 2013 10:48:31 GMT
Re Patrick Mower's early series; 'Haunted' - I can remember seeing a few episodes of this
It was screened quite late at night by ITV & it opened with a 'white figure' seen running against a woodland background....
Patrick Mower played a young lecturer guy who was interested in the paranormal in a student university setting
A couple of episodes spring to mind:
One featured Ronald Lacey (later of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' fame) as a disturbed young student guy named 'Tom Rowley' who wrote striking poems in the style of Thomas Chatterton, the guy was obsessed with the life of Chatterton who had committed suicide, and had a calendar with the 'Death of Chatterton' depicted....showing Chatterton laying dead on a bed with his window open..
Mower researches Thomas Chatterton's life...and discovers he sometimes used a 'pen name' of 'Tom Rowley' !
at the end the student guy is found dead too apparently having taken rat poison, Patrick Mower & a girl discover him, while she phones the Police Patrick Mower realises the rat poison tin is still unopened & notices that the guy is laying in an identical fashion on his bed to Chatterton in the calender picture...
after Mower leaves the bedroom the camera pans up to the window...it silently opens...
another episode featured a continually arguing couple - in rage the man tells his wife to 'drop dead' - and she does !!
after that he's shattered, has no interest in life and despite Patrick Mower & friends trying to help him, he sinks into depression & is desperate to contact his wife 'on the other side'
at the end he too is discovered dead in a chair, next to the portrait of his late wife on the wall....after they all depart to get the Police, we hear the sound of the now 'reunited' husband & wife...STILL arguing away !!
the couple were unable to live together without arguing over each & every little thing...yet it seems were unable to live life apart...
there were other episodes that featured actual "hauntings" that Mower investigated, but those two episodes are the ones that stand out in my memory.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 11:07:20 GMT
Thanks for the details, Patrick. Sounds like we lost a good series there!
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Post by adamjordan on Jan 2, 2014 11:23:18 GMT
Bumped this as it would be nice to get some closure if possible. We've all heard about Paul's activities last year over the recovered Who and the (frustrating) Morecambe and Wise reel. I think we have been very patient on this. If some reason Paul wishes to let this lie then I shan't bump this up again So was wondering, is Paul able to enlighten us as to the nature of this find?
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Post by Greg H on Jan 2, 2014 12:37:50 GMT
Could it not have been the Morecambe and Wise episode perhaps?
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