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Post by George D on Jan 26, 2013 23:22:55 GMT
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 27, 2013 2:24:29 GMT
With access to a decent high-quality scan of the original telesnap, the original picture lines might be visible and it may be possible to unpick. However, it looks as though one picture is extremely dark, quite late in the crossfade, and probably wouldn't show a lot.
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Jan 27, 2013 2:27:55 GMT
Would be nice to see what could be gleamed ... even if a fragment ... where would one get a high quality scan? I'd love to have one. ... boy we're really grasping for missing material.  God, I love being in this fandom! |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 27, 2013 5:29:40 GMT
Is this a recon made using the tele-snaps or the non-tele-snap loose cannon recon?
If its the former, what's the tele-snap before it? I mean, is it worth trying to salvage the image if the previous one is virtually identical...?
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Post by Sue Butcher on Jan 27, 2013 7:43:43 GMT
It might be worth it even so, because it would show movement. But it would be a job for an expert photo retoucher/Dr Who fanatic.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 27, 2013 8:14:57 GMT
Would be nice to see what could be gleamed ... even if a fragment ... where would one get a high quality scan? I'd love to have one. ... boy we're really grasping for missing material. God, I love being in this fandom! It would be handy down the line for removing the dual-exposed footage for the rehearsal video for The Dalek Invasion of Earth 6. |
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Post by Dominic Abrams on Jan 27, 2013 8:59:17 GMT
putting aside any of the theoretical technical mumbo jumbo...that telesnap is bloody gorgeous!
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 27, 2013 10:33:50 GMT
Oh my God,that is lovely!And superimposed over that is a gorgeous picture of Carole Ann Ford.Just looking at the Marco Polo scene you automatically hear the wonderful incidental music used in the serial and all the acting business that went on throughout it.
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 27, 2013 11:04:12 GMT
Would be nice to see what could be gleamed ... even if a fragment ... where would one get a high quality scan? I'd love to have one. ... boy we're really grasping for missing material. God, I love being in this fandom! It would be handy down the line for removing the dual-exposed footage for the rehearsal video for The Dalek Invasion of Earth 6. That's a different matter, because with the dual-exposed film, there are no scan lines that would allow you to separate the two images. And of course, I was talking rubbish earlier - if this was taken during a crossfade, there's no way of separating the two images. The scan lines would only be of use if this was a telesnap that covered two fields just as the shot changed. |
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Post by adamjordan on Jan 27, 2013 13:25:09 GMT
There are other incidences of this happening. Either a cross fade (as this appears to be) or a quick cut to the next scene captured as the camera shutter operated. I think there is an 'Evil of the Daleks' snap that shows this but I am sure I have spotted a couple of others, usually when watching the bbc snaps with the audio playing.
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Post by Simeon Carter on Jan 27, 2013 14:02:14 GMT
On the topic of Tele-Snaps does anyone know if any exist from The War Machines that cover the missing sequences from the third and fourth episode?
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Post by Simeon Carter on Jan 27, 2013 14:38:40 GMT
I know this isn't particularly related but I didn't want to start a new thread and I couldn't find a really appropriate one. Does anyone know if footage was ever reused in the reprises as they were generally re-filmed? I think I read somewhere that this was the case with the opening of The Space Museum, is this true and were there any other cases?
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Post by John Harwood (bjblackpool) on Jan 27, 2013 15:17:33 GMT
I know this isn't particularly related but I didn't want to start a new thread and I couldn't find a really appropriate one. Does anyone know if footage was ever reused in the reprises as they were generally re-filmed? I think I read somewhere that this was the case with the opening of The Space Museum, is this true and were there any other cases? Were they "generally" refilmed? I always had the sense it was 50/50. The most famous instance of a clip from a "lost" episode in the reprise is the first few seconds of The Survivors, which reuses footage from the original version of The Dead Planet (which - imo, obviously - is weaker than the performance given by Jackie Hill in the remount). |
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 27, 2013 16:00:58 GMT
I know this isn't particularly related but I didn't want to start a new thread and I couldn't find a really appropriate one. Does anyone know if footage was ever reused in the reprises as they were generally re-filmed? I think I read somewhere that this was the case with the opening of The Space Museum, is this true and were there any other cases? I think it often depended. You're right about The Space Museum - the end of 'The Warlords' is reprised and that therefore is the only material know to exist from that episode. |
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 27, 2013 20:48:04 GMT
Looking closer I think it's actually Tegana that Ian was playing Chess with. I could be wrong though, as I haven't checked the script. NB: No technical jiggery-pokery here regarding scan lines, just a fan made example of how this fade my have looked.I've cleaned up the first picture and tried to recreate the 'Chess' shot. This was VERY hard as there isn't much to go on, but I've tried to brighten up and sharpen what does exist, remove Susan and composite it up a bit. Not a very good attempt but I was rushing. Anyway, to bring it 'to life' a bit I've added a bit of facial animation to Susan before crossfading to my (rubbish) composite. Here's the result: www.youtube.com/watch?v=erbvowSoQXQ |
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