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Post by John Green on Oct 1, 2012 17:48:50 GMT
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 2, 2012 7:40:16 GMT
There are a few episodes of Houseparty - from the early 80's - that survive at Wessex, just down the road from you/me. Can't recall if the BFI have any.
I do need to look at this one though.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 2, 2012 7:42:02 GMT
I was correct that the BFI have a few. Nic Ayling who posts on here may be able to help in regard to the Beta tapes, John.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 9:57:56 GMT
This one has been discussed before and I think it's the case that not many (any?) exist on broadcast tape but some are around as off-air domestics. When you say beta, I assume you mean betaMAX rather than Beta SP though?!? Although it seemed like a live programme, I guess it was pre-recorded as live because the different regions time-shifted it to show at different times. London here got it on weekday afternoons. Ian Wegg's the one who seems to know a lot about Southern material - are you out there, Ian?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 2, 2012 10:13:24 GMT
Nic has confirmed nothing exists on Beta SP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 10:16:46 GMT
Right. So presumably the stuff the BFI has is on a domestic / semi-domestic format then (e.g. U-Matic)?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 2, 2012 10:28:32 GMT
They have three editions on one tape. I stress the word TAPE!!!! That's all I know. There is a complete edition on youtube, unsure if that's the one Wessex have.
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Post by markandresen on Oct 2, 2012 10:33:47 GMT
Middle-aged, middle-class women comparing ailments, recent purchases and cup cake recipes. We get into the realms of what's worth saving here. I guess there might be an argument in favour of the extreme outskirts of social history. But...
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 2, 2012 10:43:50 GMT
In my opinion, all TV is worth saving. And frankly, that's a bit ageist and classist, haha!!!! It's a slightly twee forerunner of Loose Women, that's all.
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Post by Christopher Perry on Oct 2, 2012 12:37:43 GMT
Wessex hold copies of all ths surviving episodes on digibeta, ex VHS and ex Betamax.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 12:53:44 GMT
Thanks Chris. So I was right that they're all from domestic tapes originally. I agree with you, Ray: all TV is worth preserving for one reason or another as what's "worthy" or "important" depends on who's watching (and why)! It's a very individual thing
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Post by John Green on Oct 2, 2012 12:58:28 GMT
Yeah,all too often the lives of ordinary people in the past are hidden,while the affairs of the elite are well documented.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 2, 2012 13:10:37 GMT
Just to nip this in the bud before things get into a debate on 'what's worth saving' (and thank you both Laurence and John), even Our Show (my pet hate of all TV evereverevereverevereverever survives and I'm glad it does, even though I hate it almost as much than P#rtsm#uth FC - also something else I'm glad was saved, though I hate them....) because it's all down to personal preference. Amen.
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Post by Ian Wegg on Oct 2, 2012 16:33:12 GMT
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Post by Simon Winters on Oct 2, 2012 17:18:53 GMT
Three of these off-air recordings were released officially on VHS by Workhouse Productions.
Several off-airs survive, but no masters as far as I know.
The series was created by Jack Hargreaves, and I think the only man who ever appeared on the show was Fred Draineage.
It did deal with some unusual subjects for 1970s tv, including female circumcision.
Some film footage of the first colour edition survives on the 1969 film 'Colour Comes South'.
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