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Post by Mike Beasey on Aug 4, 2012 13:29:58 GMT
Does anyone know what remains in the BBC archive of the programme Tomorrow's World, notably editions from the programme's golden era from 1968 - 1980? The archive section on the BBC website has a collection devoted to the programme, however there are no complete editions from this era. There is also little in the way of clips on YouTube. This era of the programme of course featured such presenters as Raymond Baxter, James Burke, William Wollard and Michael Rodd.
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Post by Greg H on Aug 4, 2012 14:27:11 GMT
According to the Lost Shows database 1968 to 1992 exist complete!!
It seems a bit far fetched to me that the BBC could manage to keep a complete run of a show, but thats the info I could find!
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Post by Mike Beasey on Aug 4, 2012 16:07:09 GMT
Thanks Greg. I totally agreed, based on the destruction to their archive during this period a complete archive from 1968-1992 does appear odd, particularly as so few editions appear anywhere. I don't suppose anyone has a complete edition from the early 70's?
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Post by Greg H on Aug 4, 2012 17:21:28 GMT
Well there is a strict no trading allowed policy on this website but you can send me a pm to discuss Tomorrow's World if you follow me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2012 8:29:17 GMT
There are some whole editions existing from early in the show's run, including 1968. But I've no idea at which point it becomes complete in the archives.
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Post by John Green on Aug 5, 2012 10:05:40 GMT
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Post by markboulton on Aug 5, 2012 14:13:24 GMT
I doubt the archive is anywhere near complete because in a 1991 feature about colour telerecording, Howard Stapleton introduced a demonstration of colour telerecording of what he deserved as, "a piece of television history. The earliest surviving colour edition of this programme". It was a 1973 edition of TW introduced by Raymond Baxter.
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Post by markboulton on Aug 5, 2012 14:15:28 GMT
Plus when a collection of TW items appeared on a BBCmicro site a couple of years back, they were all presented as raw film inserts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2012 14:39:13 GMT
I'm of the belief from what I've read here over the years that there's pitifully little in the way of complete shows from before the late 70's, but they did retain most film inserts... just not the actual linking material and shows as broadcast.
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Post by John Green on Aug 5, 2012 14:57:05 GMT
There was a listing of then-known episodes on an old thread: missingepisodes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=27 Among the ones they missed are the two full (?) 1965 episodes uploaded on the BBC site in 2009. There's a reference to the colour information on a 1973 recording being "reconstituted".Sounds very like the...are they called chroma dots?...information people are trying to recover off other recordings? How this fits in I don't know,but it seems a viewer taped many,if not all episodes from the late 70s through the 80s. |
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Post by Richard Marple on Aug 5, 2012 19:56:38 GMT
Certainly the Krafwerk report from 1975 survives.
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Post by Ken Griffin on Aug 5, 2012 21:52:29 GMT
The BBC's own archive site has a selection of Tomorrow's World episodes online including several complete editions from the 1960s: www.bbc.co.uk/archive/tomorrowsworld/So we know that those at least survive! |
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Post by John Green on Aug 6, 2012 2:02:27 GMT
Hi,Ken.It's not often I can say this,but I gave the link to the 'Tomorrow's World' archive in reply no.5.
A problem with the Lostshows entry is that they identify TW as starting in 1968,whereas 1965 seems correct.If so,it's understandable given the massive task involved in compiling the information on that site.
There are some episodes listed on the BFI catalogue,including one or two from 1966.I wonder if it's worth checking them?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Aug 6, 2012 8:22:33 GMT
Reply (slightly edited) from the BBC:- ""There are very few complete programmes until the 1980s, before that however we have a very large number of film items (being live, it wasn’t generally recorded except by BBC Wales as they showed it at a different time, and they re-used the tapes). Motion Gallery’s information would just be taken from the main library system. It’s such a long-running programme it would be difficult to give a precise figure for what existis without a lot of research""
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 9:02:40 GMT
There are some episodes listed on the BFI catalogue,including one or two from 1966.I wonder if it's worth checking them? In light of Ray's reply from the BBC, I think it might be!  A worse TW archive than I imagined then. I was assuming a fair sprinkling of editions - at least from the '70s onwards, if nothing else. |
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