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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 26, 2012 20:56:23 GMT
Disclaimer: Probably mentioned before, grain of salt, yada yada, etc. Just reading the BroaDWcast website and came across the article on Singapore, and that they officially bought 318 episodes but had 319 airdates, and that, if the extra airdate was in correct order and if we ignore all known BBC documentation to date, and if we ignore the possibility that an episode simply got pre-empted, then Mission to the Unknown could have screened on 6th of November, 1972. gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Singapore(scroll down to the 'An Extra Episode?' bit) gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Mission_to_the_UnknownConsidering Mission was being offered right up until 1974 it could be an option (as does a possible sale with Nigeria), but who knows...
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 26, 2012 21:21:16 GMT
... we ignore all known BBC documentation to date .... Most of the BBC documentation about Mission is missing or incomplete or inconclusive. There's nothing to indicate that Mission was sold to Singapore. But there's nothing to say it wasn't...
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 26, 2012 21:47:09 GMT
It does seem odd that the BBC were still offering MTTU for sale, becuase without the Master Plan it would have seemed very out of place.
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Post by Simon Broad on Jan 26, 2012 21:51:01 GMT
Wish Mission To The Unknown is in Singapore this is a great story!! I hope one day we will find some more Dalek MasterPlan Episodes to so they can release a boxset with MasterPlan and Unknown and a few animated episodes in between that would be amazing!!
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 26, 2012 21:55:53 GMT
It does seem odd that the BBC were still offering MTTU for sale, becuase without the Master Plan it would have seemed very out of place. Agreed, but of course that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I'd have thought it more likely that there was a one-week break, though. But whether it was shown or not, haven't they already done the check and returned stuff years ago..?
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 26, 2012 21:57:31 GMT
It does seem odd that the BBC were still offering MTTU for sale, becuase without the Master Plan it would have seemed very out of place. Not necessarily. MTTU was designed to be a Dalek story first and foremost. It could simply be construed as a Dalek adventure where the Doctor doesn't show up and the good guys simply lose because of it. The fact that TDMP doesn't show up later makes it even more powerful. Pity it's missing. This along with Power of the Daleks are my most sought after episodes.
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Post by adamjordan on Jan 26, 2012 23:35:19 GMT
Amazingly this was still extant on videotape in 1974 having slipped through several sets of purges. With a charmed life like that it would be wonderful to see this one turn up, but I very much doubt it exists anymore.
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Post by John Andersen on Jan 27, 2012 0:49:30 GMT
Disclaimer: Probably mentioned before, grain of salt, yada yada, etc. Just reading the BroaDWcast website and came across the article on Singapore, and that they officially bought 318 episodes but had 319 airdates, and that, if the extra airdate was in correct order and if we ignore all known BBC documentation to date, and if we ignore the possibility that an episode simply got pre-empted, then Mission to the Unknown could have screened on 6th of November, 1972. gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Singapore(scroll down to the 'An Extra Episode?' bit) gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Mission_to_the_UnknownConsidering Mission was being offered right up until 1974 it could be an option (as does a possible sale with Nigeria), but who knows... I'm sure that since Paul Vanezis and his team have basically concluded their search of Africa, they will eventually start an investigation concerning the paperwork and the countries in Asia that purchased the program. Just give him and his people time. Hopefully, we'll have better luck on the other continents.
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Jan 27, 2012 1:37:23 GMT
Too much nonsense just let Paul take care of legit leads.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 27, 2012 3:33:51 GMT
Too much nonsense just let Paul take care of legit leads. So we're not allowed to discuss anything unless a proper team is actively searching for it...?
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 27, 2012 4:11:29 GMT
It does seem odd that the BBC were still offering MTTU for sale, becuase without the Master Plan it would have seemed very out of place. Not necessarily. MTTU was designed to be a Dalek story first and foremost. It could simply be construed as a Dalek adventure where the Doctor doesn't show up and the good guys simply lose because of it. The fact that TDMP doesn't show up later makes it even more powerful. Galaxy 4 and MTTU were made by the same production team. Both serials were still "active" in 1974. I wonder whether the BBC considered them to be part of the same 'package' when G4 was sold to Singapore in 1972, maybe as a five part serial?
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Post by John Wall on Jan 27, 2012 9:21:21 GMT
The archive in Singapore has probably been checked - but I'm sure someone will confirm. If it's subsequently been digitised then I'd say it's a dry hole.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 27, 2012 21:23:08 GMT
Just remember the point of this thread wasn't 'Mission to the Unknown might still be in Singapore' but more 'Mission to the Unknown might have screened in Singapore'. Which is quite interesting. Although I won't be upset if the former were true too.
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Post by John Green on Jan 27, 2012 21:31:28 GMT
A bit of irony here,but it may be appropriate. Have broadcasting companies a very good reputation for showing stories in the right order? I think we've all experienced shows that have been a bit whacky-I still don't get George's amazing beard in Blackadder II. I admit that Doctor Who is one show with episodes that need to be shown in order,though perhaps not the stories.Would broadcasters be doing the fan-thing of asking where Mission fits into the continuity,or would they perhaps think "here's something we can put on to stand alone on a holiday"?
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 27, 2012 21:38:58 GMT
Have broadcasting companies a very good reputation for showing stories in the right order? A majority of foreign broadcasters showed DW in the order dictated by the alphabetical production codes, which resulted in Carnival of Monsters (PPP) playing before The Three Doctors (RRR), The Sontaran Experiment (4B) before The Ark in Space (4C), Revenge of the Cybermen (4D) before Genesis of the Daleks (4E), etc. In Sierra Leone, they played The Savages (code AA), The War Machines (BB) and The Smugglers (CC) ahead of Galaxy 4 (code T), Myth Makers (U), Massacre (W) through to Gunfighters (Z), as, the doubled letters aside, that was logical alphabetically.
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