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Post by Alan Turrell on Jan 25, 2012 19:40:13 GMT
I can well remember watching Power of the Daleks and thinking , oh no it won't be as good with a different doctor and yet i don't recall seeing any hartnell stories but i must have done. I've seen many troughton stories like power , evil , fury ,ice warriors all the cybermen stories and in my opionion his stories are without doubt the scariest, the ones that made me literally hide behind the sofa on a saturday teatime .Other shows that have now gone that i saw were ,Twizzle, crackerjack,Sara and hopitty,five o' clock club ,Tinga and Tucker,Junior showtime , Adam Adamant , Ready steady go , Thank your Lucky stars , Top Of the Pops ,London Palladium Show , not every episode of all these of course but quite a few of them. it's a shame but i wonder what the chances are of ever seeing them again but great memories that will never go away.
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Post by simoncurtis on Jan 25, 2012 20:03:06 GMT
Many of us on here would remember watching 'programmes for schools and colleges, at school or home when faking a belly ache.I can imagine many of these being wiped well into the eighties.A series of scary tales called 'middle english' springs to mind.
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Post by Brian Fretwell on Jan 25, 2012 20:08:02 GMT
Many of the old soaps:- Compact, The Newcomers, Dr Who - Marco Polo and almost all the other lost Hartnells, (I missed Ep1 BOTH times, but saw all of Ep2), early Public Eye, The Ratcatchers, Orlando, Crane, Bonehead and his Gang etc.
However much is too long ago to remember details.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 20:14:30 GMT
I did hear an urban myth of a power cut that affected some parts of the country on the afternoon of 23/11/1963, but Kif of TBS had rubbished that idea. You may be confusing the first episode of DW with the pilot of K9 and Company - there was definitely a power cut across the North West when that went out, so I missed it. Probably quite fortunately, in hindsight. Good grief, first post and I end up talking about K9 and Company. What have I become???
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Post by John Green on Jan 25, 2012 21:07:01 GMT
Brian,if I'reading the information correctly on Lostshows and IMDB,the 1957 pilot of Bonehead and 13 of the 15 episodes shown in the early 60s.That means that at least two escaped the slaughter. I thought for about 20 years that The Telegoons were wiped only to discover that they're on Youtube and you can buy a DVD.The original Goons,original Goon Show scripts,and bizarre puppets.What's not to like? But were they on before or after Doctor Who on Saturday nights?
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Post by John Green on Jan 25, 2012 21:08:28 GMT
Oh,I've got to preview these.Please read "shown in the early 60s were wiped". Apologies.
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Post by erikborja on Jan 26, 2012 2:50:06 GMT
Hey I know this is going off topic, but why weren't BBC shows filmed. Wasn't film less expensive than tape
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Post by George D on Jan 26, 2012 4:26:32 GMT
A film is less expensive than tape in the short run. That being said, if your reusing the tape constantly, tape would be cheaper in the long run. Unfortunately, its just bad archivally.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2012 10:50:39 GMT
Having said that though, if more had been made on film from, say, the '60s onwards, it would have encouraged a different type of programme to be made (and not necessarily as good as what we had). More of the ITC type of glossy adventure and less Wednesday Play / Z-Cars / Till Death. So probably less varied or groundbreaking programming.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Jan 26, 2012 10:54:25 GMT
Hey I know this is going off topic, but why weren't BBC shows filmed. Wasn't film less expensive than tape In the early years of video, yes film was cheaper, also tape could not take too many re-uses as it wore out quickly, but by the end of the sixties tape was a rugged and durable format and also cheaper than film. But there were other aspects to consider such as the unions and maverick managers etc to get the whole picture of why things were done the way they were. The BBC shot the adventure series Vendetta on 35mm film- they still lost it or dumped it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2012 10:56:59 GMT
I think Vendetta was VT, Peter. The surviving episodes are all t/rs, which seems to bear this out. I seem to recall it being VT at the time too, although I can't be certain as it's years since i've seen one!
For some reason, the BBC didn't venture into film series much at all back then. The Third Man was a co-production and a few one-offs (e.g. Alice In Wonderland and certain plays) were all film but I think Target in the '70s was the first proper drama series they made completely themselves in this way (prompted by the success of Euston Films, no doubt).
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jan 26, 2012 11:12:53 GMT
I think many of us - even those born at the scrag end of the 60's will have seen hundreds of missing episodes and not realized....from stuff we can't remember as kids....to shows the family were watching, be it light entertainment, chat shows or local news, to the Wiped kids shows of the 70's and 80's....there are simply hundreds....that have been Wiped....a very sad situation. I was amazed the 'Lesley Judd' TOTP was wiped (and thankfully recovered by Kal), I remember that!
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Post by Julian Jones on Jan 26, 2012 13:08:01 GMT
I keep hearing about this Adam Lee character. Seems he was responsible for the loss of rather a lot of old TV I watched as a child. Chock-A-Block, Fraggle Rock, Cheggers Plays Pop, etc. Also loved The Adventure Game (Richard Stillgoe always seemed to be on it!) Its shocking to think things I watched as a kid no longer exist. Makes em wonder what else was wiped. Bric-A-Brac with Brian Cant? Does that still exist?
My mum says my Nan loved Patrick Troughton as Quilp in The Old Curiosity Shop. She laugh at how he rubbed his hands together in glee!
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jan 26, 2012 14:00:18 GMT
I keep hearing about this Adam Lee character. Seems he was responsible for the loss of rather a lot of old TV I watched as a child. Chock-A-Block, Fraggle Rock, Cheggers Plays Pop, etc. Also loved The Adventure Game (Richard Stillgoe always seemed to be on it!) Its shocking to think things I watched as a kid no longer exist. Makes em wonder what else was wiped. Bric-A-Brac with Brian Cant? Does that still exist? My mum says my Nan loved Patrick Troughton as Quilp in The Old Curiosity Shop. She laugh at how he rubbed his hands together in glee! Bric-a-Brac exists....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2012 14:10:29 GMT
I keep hearing about this Adam Lee character. Seems he was responsible for the loss of rather a lot of old TV I watched as a child. What's more concerning to me is that he still seems to be involved with BBC archives in some capacity or other. A man who should clearly not be in a responsible position or let near anything of value.
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