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Post by G D Peck on Dec 29, 2011 7:15:30 GMT
Curious to know if the prints that reside in a Mexican TV station are suppressed or stored field recordings.
As if they are stored field recordings wouldn't it be worth to get a few of them back? Namely The Daleks episodes 5,7 and The Edge of Destruction 2?
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Post by Jamie F on Dec 31, 2011 19:11:00 GMT
As if they are stored field recordings wouldn't it be worth to get a few of them back? Namely The Daleks episodes 5,7 and The Edge of Destruction 2? Also The Velvet Web and The Snows of Terror for the possibility that they may be unedited. |
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Jan 4, 2012 6:16:39 GMT
Maybe if we could find out what happened to the prints in Trindad and Tobago and Zambia which is full of holes maybe something can be found?
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Post by Ross Mann on Jan 4, 2012 7:58:58 GMT
Wouldn't the prints that reside in Mexico just be dubs of copies that exist at the BBC?
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Post by Giles Sparrow on Jan 4, 2012 11:06:00 GMT
Wouldn't the prints that reside in Mexico just be dubs of copies that exist at the BBC? in this case, yes – IIRC the Marinus edits were found in the original negatives recovered from Enterprises, and the RT reckon they were made due to glitches in the transfer process. The damaged negative was probably the source of the Mexico prints and any other overseas ones, so unless there was another negative, the cuts would just be duplicated. Hello everybody, by the way! Long-time lurker, first time poster! |
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Post by G D Peck on Jan 4, 2012 11:38:48 GMT
Hi all,
The reason why I brought this up was after reading the excellent WIPED! Book. From my understanding (and I am far from being an expert) The Daleks Episodes 5 and 7 exist as Suppressed Field recordings in the BBC archive. The Edge of Destruction episode 2 has the end scene patched in from a Suppressed Field print.
My question was are the Mexican prints Stored Field recordings?
Especially if they received their prints after the second batch (stored field) of telerecordings were made.
I would assume that if they are stored prints they would have a higher picture resolution than what is in the archives now. So it may be worth getting them back to upgrade.
As I said I am no expert and might be barking up the wrong tree.
Maybe Paul, Richard or Jon could shed more light on this?
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Post by dennywilson on Jan 4, 2012 19:28:51 GMT
Maybe if we could find out what happened to the prints in Trindad and Tobago and Zambia which is full of holes maybe something can be found? They have been looking into this already. |
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Post by George D on Jan 4, 2012 23:32:11 GMT
My interpretation was that the African prints got bicycled into Sierra Leone and were put on the alter of sacrfice in the cause of a very destructive and foolish war. Of course since everything has been burned, records could be inaccurate. It never hurts to go country by country, finding an old timer, and asking what they know and what archives and collectors they know. Referrals are an amazing thing  Im trusting the team to handle the leads in the order of their chances of success. |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 4, 2012 23:40:40 GMT
I can't say for certain this applies in all cases, but sometimes the later / better Stored Field T/Rs were zoomed-in slightly, so the older / inferior Suppressed Field T/Rs actually contain more detail around the four sides of the picture. So even if the Mexico prints were of better quality overall, they would have had less picture, making them less desirable for DVD restoration.
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