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Uganda
Dec 13, 2011 16:00:43 GMT
Post by Simon Broad on Dec 13, 2011 16:00:43 GMT
Hi, Just watched this youtube video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhPfqYpOAMA&feature=relatedAnd their seems to be quite alot of troughton episodes sent to this country but have not confirmed they have destroyed them. In some cases this is the only country which says they have not destroyed them ie: The Highlanders. The Moonbase. Is this any help?? Thanks
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Uganda
Dec 13, 2011 18:29:02 GMT
Post by John Andersen on Dec 13, 2011 18:29:02 GMT
Hi, Just watched this youtube video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhPfqYpOAMA&feature=relatedAnd their seems to be quite alot of troughton episodes sent to this country but have not confirmed they have destroyed them. In some cases this is the only country which says they have not destroyed them ie: The Highlanders. The Moonbase. Is this any help?? Thanks I don't see how it can hurt. Paul Vanezis or someone else in authority can take a look at it and determine whether it could provide a lead or not.
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Uganda
Dec 13, 2011 19:07:23 GMT
Post by Richard Bignell on Dec 13, 2011 19:07:23 GMT
Well, some of the information in the video is incorrect and much has been superseded by the detailed work that Paul and others have been doing for the past few years, so the records of where episodes went, what happened to them and where they were moved on to is much fuller than it was before.
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Uganda
Dec 13, 2011 19:24:55 GMT
Post by Simon Broad on Dec 13, 2011 19:24:55 GMT
How do you actually go about tracking down the episodes do you email Ugandas archive or phone or what??
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Uganda
Dec 13, 2011 20:23:49 GMT
Post by Paul Vanezis on Dec 13, 2011 20:23:49 GMT
How do you actually go about tracking down the episodes do you email Ugandas archive or phone or what?? Uganda has been personally visited. There are no old BBC programmes there, or in fact any archive television apart from an almost complete run of MASH. Regards, Paul
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Uganda
Dec 13, 2011 21:05:55 GMT
Post by Simon Broad on Dec 13, 2011 21:05:55 GMT
Oh thanks, the other one is Gibralatar it says alot of films have not been confirmed wiped their
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Uganda
Dec 13, 2011 21:37:17 GMT
Post by Alex Taylor on Dec 13, 2011 21:37:17 GMT
How do you actually go about tracking down the episodes do you email Ugandas archive or phone or what?? Uganda has been personally visited. There are no old BBC programmes there, or in fact any archive television apart from an almost complete run of MASH. Regards, Paul I don't suppose that included a film copy of 'Our Finest Hour', by any chance? IIRC the DVD release used a rather ropey NTSC video copy as Fox no longer have the original.
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Uganda
Dec 13, 2011 22:33:12 GMT
Post by Richard Bignell on Dec 13, 2011 22:33:12 GMT
Oh thanks, the other one is Gibralatar it says alot of films have not been confirmed wiped their Gibraltar is a British colony and the television station there has been most helpful in confirming that they no longer gave anything (which they did a long time ago).
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Uganda
Dec 15, 2011 17:19:36 GMT
Post by Jim Exley on Dec 15, 2011 17:19:36 GMT
From the above, the researches the guys are undertaking as to what was sold to where and what happened to it do seem to have got some way to ruling out several countries as holding any material.
I'm aware that you're all still on the case and your information isn't as yet complete, but are there any cases where you can definitely say all the prints sold of a particular serial are accounted for as destroyed? Maybe a bit of a downer to ask, but can we now rule anything out? Thanks - Jim
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Uganda
Dec 16, 2011 12:22:13 GMT
Post by Paul Vanezis on Dec 16, 2011 12:22:13 GMT
are there any cases where you can definitely say all the prints sold of a particular serial are accounted for as destroyed? No. I don't rule anything out. I am convinced there are more films with private collectors, less convinced about overseas. But regardless, I don't think anyone can rule out any episode from turning up. I wouldn't even rule out a rogue FR or 'Feast of Steven'; just because Ents didn't film record it, doesn't mean to say it wasn't FR'd for internal review. And no, don't read anything into that. I haven't found a copy of it! Regards, Paul
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Uganda
Dec 16, 2011 21:12:43 GMT
Post by Jim Exley on Dec 16, 2011 21:12:43 GMT
Point taken! Thinking about it, about two thirds of the episodes found since 1982 seem to have turned up in the UK so I've no problems accepting that. J
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Uganda
Dec 17, 2011 16:27:47 GMT
Post by Douglas Wulf on Dec 17, 2011 16:27:47 GMT
are there any cases where you can definitely say all the prints sold of a particular serial are accounted for as destroyed? No. I don't rule anything out. I am convinced there are more films with private collectors, less convinced about overseas. But regardless, I don't think anyone can rule out any episode from turning up. I wouldn't even rule out a rogue FR or 'Feast of Steven'; just because Ents didn't film record it, doesn't mean to say it wasn't FR'd for internal review. And no, don't read anything into that. I haven't found a copy of it! Regards, Paul Just one point ... You mention the possibility of more films with private collectors but with less of a chance of films turning up overseas. However, private collectors in other countries, especially in such places as Australia and New Zealand where lots of prints were sent, seem almost as feasible as those in the UK, given that 'The Lion' was found with an overseas private collector. Sadly, a private collector in Sierra Leone might be a bit too much to hope for, I'll admit!
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Uganda
Dec 17, 2011 23:51:04 GMT
Post by George D on Dec 17, 2011 23:51:04 GMT
Prints usually appear on the secondary market due to skips or getting rid of old prints. Usually they dont exist from being taken from protected archives, but anything is possible. I dont know the whole story regarding sierra leone, however if it they both bombed and then burned it at the same time, its likely that there was not a chance to remove anything (even if they could) Sadly, its not only the daleks that are good at total extermination
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