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Post by John Miller on Dec 8, 2004 18:52:33 GMT
Victor Lewis Smith employed several clips from 'Disc a Dawn' ('71', '73) which evidently survive, also on tape. I wondered if anyone has any idea what or if other items from the same BBC Wales period survive. I recall a welsh magazine programme showing a film item on Moles (first time I'd seen a non - cartoon mole), also 'Ryan a Ronnie', a Laurel & Hardy style comedy duo who went on to an english spoken version of the show networked later in England. Also there was a different BBC link. Circa 1970, the globe would disappear leaving the 'BBC' lettering below. A vertical line would then appear on the blank background which was actually the side view of an oval shaped scanner type sculpture (rather like the CBS record label logo) which would slowly revolve accompanied by radiophonic workshop electronic themes. Does anyone know if these items survive?
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Post by Brian D not logged in on Dec 8, 2004 21:06:34 GMT
Wasn't it 'Disc a Dawns'? I remember the late sixties BBC Cymru 'artefact' which from my childhood memory was more crystalline than the CBS logo, though the same shape. I'd be interested to see it again. We could get BBC Cymru in Liverpool and I remember watching much of Cardiff City's famous European Cup Winners Cup run in 1967/68, which wasn't really covered by BBC in England.
Pobol y Cwm seems to have been around forever so that may have some early episodes surviving.
Mae'r iaith Cymraeg yn ddiddorol, dwy'n meddwl, a roedd BBC Cymru exotic iawn i'r bachgen hwn...but it's about twenty years since I spoke Welsh on any regular basis so i'm probably making a t*t of myself!
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Post by Laurence Piper on Dec 8, 2004 21:21:57 GMT
Wasn't that an earlier version of the BBC Wales logo that you describe? A sort of semi-transparent perspex rotating shape (as seen briefly in a TV shop window in Dennis Potter's play "Where The Buffalo Roam"). This may have been in the b/w days from what I remember, with a different logo coming in around the early '70s? Do BBC Wales have their own archive, I wonder (and if so, what's in it, more to the point)? I used to watch Ryan & Ronnie in their Welsh-speaking series myself (in the 1pm slot) before they moved to an evening English series a year or two later.
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Post by Simon Mclean on Dec 8, 2004 22:22:28 GMT
It was definitely 'Disc A Dawn' - a recent issue of Record Collector had a photo of the spin-off LP cover (very nice it was too, in the same style as the opening credits).
If TV Offal was anything to go by, there seem to be at least three surviving DADs, one b&w TR, one b&w VT and one colour VT - and I really want to see them!
I know at least one edition of Ryan A Ronnie still exists, as I saw some of it recently, but there are probably more out there.
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Post by Simon Mclean on Dec 8, 2004 22:28:12 GMT
Oh yes, and in the Welsh Film and Television Archive, there's a showreel of 1960s BBC Wales animated credits sequences, which includes a number of one-off plays, 'Heddiw', 'ABC' (some sort of quiz show by the looks of it) 'Drych' (a detective series?) and what appears to be some sort of sci-fi/space drama called 'Omega 9' which looks very interesting!
I'd love to know more about any of these shows, if anyone can find anything out (especially about Omega 9, which if the credits are anything to go by seems to be a forgotten entry in the BBC drama canon).
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Post by Laurence Piper on Dec 8, 2004 22:44:27 GMT
Is it complete though?
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Post by restipolutio on Dec 9, 2004 20:21:20 GMT
Ryan and Ronnie were superb. Their episodes are aired occasionally on S4C (mostly colour), so I think most if not all colour ones exist. Some BBC Wales logos are on the tv ark website including the famous "Troes y Garreg" radiophonic workshop special just for BBC Wales.
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