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Post by Rob Moss on Sept 18, 2010 15:15:28 GMT
As we know, the Australian censors insisted that sequences removed from b/w film programmes were kept in order to ensure that the edits had been made. But how was this achieved with regards to material cut from later programmes supplied on VT..?
Were the offending sections literally physically cut from the tapes..? Do any such snippets of tape remain, and if so, how would you go about getting decent playback off a relatively short piece of tape..?
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Post by Jon Preddle on Sept 18, 2010 19:41:49 GMT
As we know, the Australian censors insisted that sequences removed from b/w film programmes were kept in order to ensure that the edits had been made. But how was this achieved with regards to material cut from later programmes supplied on VT..? Were the offending sections literally physically cut from the tapes..? Do any such snippets of tape remain, and if so, how would you go about getting decent playback off a relatively short piece of tape..? The broadcaster would always make a transmission copy from the tape they were supplied with. The censors edits were made during the copying process, presumably by 'pausing' the recording machine during the sequence being 'cut'. |
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Post by Rob Moss on Sept 21, 2010 21:40:42 GMT
Thanks, Jon, I guess they couldn't evidence the cuts so easily, which is why I asked the question.
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Post by Peter Bradford on Sept 22, 2010 21:45:02 GMT
I don't think any broadcaster would wilfully risk its broadcasting licence by deliberately defying the government censor. Surely if the censor said cut out x or y any sensible broadcaster would do just that. The regulator could obviously be in attendance during the edit process - but why bother? All regulators monitor the outputs of those they regulate. And if you, as the regulator, ask for something to be censored you'd jolly well make a specific point of monitoring it when it was transmitted.
Broadcasters and regulatory authorities always work in harmony with each other, otherwise the broadcaster can never win, and if it defies the regulator often enough it would clearly lose it's broadcasting licence - commercial suicide.
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Post by Rob Moss on Sept 24, 2010 23:49:38 GMT
Sure, I just remember reading somewhere that the censored clips has to be retained in order to prove that the material had been removed. If there was no requirement to do that, why keep all the little trims of film at all..?
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Post by brianfretwell on Sept 26, 2010 16:47:48 GMT
Sure, I just remember reading somewhere that the censored clips has to be retained in order to prove that the material had been removed. If there was no requirement to do that, why keep all the little trims of film at all..? Yes I'm sure I read that in the posts on the old Restoration Team Forum, there was time limit on how long they needed to be kept and they were returned just before it came up IIRC. |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Sept 26, 2010 18:24:58 GMT
Sure, I just remember reading somewhere that the censored clips has to be retained in order to prove that the material had been removed. If there was no requirement to do that, why keep all the little trims of film at all..? Yes I'm sure I read that in the posts on the old Restoration Team Forum, there was time limit on how long they needed to be kept and they were returned just before it came up IIRC. In Australia it was a requirement to keep the film trims - as noted it was a government control, but also presumably so the cuts could be reinserted if the prints were required to be sent elsewhere. In New Zealand, the understanding was that censored footage had to be spliced back into the prints before being sent on. As it transpires this didn't always happen, which is why we've now got surviving censor clips from both countries, and why The Time Meddler and The War Machines are still incomplete (both were cut by the NZ censors). In all likelihood other countries that had censorship controls had similar rules regarding the retaining and disposal of trims. But the chance of these trims still surviving to this day is very remote. Jon |
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Post by Martin Dunne on Sept 29, 2010 4:44:53 GMT
The legislation requires the Department of Customs to retain film trims. I have not seen or heard of an amendment to keep VT trims. I strongly suspect the medium lent itself to copying rather than splicing so well that is is how it was accomplished. But then I've only got documentation relation to film.
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