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Post by Steven Smith on Sept 30, 2004 9:29:20 GMT
Can anyone please tell me where the clip on the Dads Army DVD (disc 1) originates from?? Its in B/W and is a short clip of the actors (in character) looking back at their time in the War in the form of an after-dinner speech. Walker is there, so it must be an early clip....Thanks.
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Post by andrew martin on Sept 30, 2004 12:32:33 GMT
I haven't seen this Easter Egg, but if anything it sound like it might be an alternative version of the opening sequence of the first episode. There exists an incomplete 35mm film recording of what seems to be the original version of the first episode, including a different caption slide establishing the bank as Martin's Bank rather than the Swallow Bank, and has a glimpse of the original end titles showing archive footage of the war.
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Post by Mr Sheen on Sept 30, 2004 16:21:08 GMT
The Easter Egg on disc 1 is actually just the studio clock counting down to the start of the episode. The pre-titles sequence of the characters after the war is the same on the 35mm film as the 16mm. The different bank slide is after the titles and is not on the DVD. Neither is the glimpse of the "war" credits which are just a few frames and would be a case of "blink and you miss it".
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Post by andrew martin on Oct 1, 2004 11:14:37 GMT
Indeed the 35mm excerpts that survive are obviously a straight copy from the original VT, albeit just bits - a bit odd - one possible reason for their existence that suddenly occurs to me is that they were dubbed either for trails or for review purposes (eg Late Night Line-Up). Hard to say for sure though.
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Post by Barry Delve on Oct 1, 2004 12:57:11 GMT
Can anyone please tell me where the clip on the Dads Army DVD (disc 1) originates from?? Its in B/W and is a short clip of the actors (in character) looking back at their time in the War in the form of an after-dinner speech. Walker is there, so it must be an early clip....Thanks. Hi, this isn't an Easter Egg, its the actual start of the first episode, and its always been there. |
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Post by Mr Sheen on Oct 1, 2004 14:47:24 GMT
Indeed the 35mm excerpts that survive are obviously a straight copy from the original VT, albeit just bits - a bit odd - one possible reason for their existence that suddenly occurs to me is that they were dubbed either for trails or for review purposes (eg Late Night Line-Up). Hard to say for sure though. That's an interesting thought, Andrew. However, wouldn't it have been a bit extravagant for Pres to make a 35mm discontinuous film recording of the whole episode for trails or review? I'd have thought by 1969 they'd have made Quad dubs of what they wanted. I suspect the answer may lie with the broadcast episode being modified slightly at the wishes of the Head of LE (IIRC). Not only is there the tantalising glimpse of the "war image" end titles (actually I suspect it was just the "You have been watching" bit that used the archive material), but in the montage of war footage at the start of the episode, in the 35mm version there are a couple of shots of a tank being blown up and another tank driving over other vehicles. In the broadcast version these are replaced by shots of happy people in the streets. It's on record that the Dept Heads were unhappy with real images of death and destruction featuring in a comedy show so they had to be removed. The different geometry and other film artefacts show that the 16mm is not a reduction print of the 35mm, so the 16mm is genuinely a new recording from the VT. Taking into account the above changes (and also the different bank slide, presumably for continuity reasons), I suspect the 35mm is effectively the bulk of the untransmitted pilot edit. The changes are so fleeting and minor that it wouldn't be worth putting the original version on the DVD too. It would be useful for a documentary about the show though. |
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Post by andrew martin on Oct 1, 2004 18:40:30 GMT
The 35mm recording is about 20 minutes, including line-ups etc - the recording is prefixed '35/6MIS', ie miscellaneous, which seems to have meant it was done for some internal reason. However it doesn't have the whole of the original end titles, so I can't see that it's much to do with the re-edits. The 16mm film recording is evidently nothing to do with it, but recorded from the final edit of the VT. The 35mm recording is dated 23/4/68, which is the recording date of the episode as a whole. Indeed VT was used for trails, in fact they were the first thing the BBC used VT for, but 35mm telerecording was still used in parallel with VT for various reasons up to 1969. There actually exists another 35mm telerecording which seems likely to have been recorded for presentation, of sequences from "Workshop" and an American dance programme, from round about the same era, so it would not be unique if the "Dad's Army" material was recorded for use in trails, and since the other example is reasonably substantial too, nor would it be unusually profligate for them to have recorded 15 minutes or so of material. However, it's just a theory - given that the recording is incomplete, and 35mm, it may explain those facts, but I'm open to better suggestions...
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Post by Guest on Oct 24, 2004 12:47:42 GMT
How do I see the clock easter egg on this DVD? I can't find it.
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Post by Flickyhecky on Nov 16, 2004 19:18:46 GMT
As no one else is bothered to tell you, i will!
Select "Play All", and depending on your player, it should start as normal, but the chapter point is Chapter 2, go back a chapter to see the countdown clock.
The REAL egg is on the main menu, click up and highlight the word "Dad's Army" and the end titles are thier in raw form.
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