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Post by Collie Knox on Dec 1, 2004 23:02:29 GMT
easy for them to sneer but i thank doctor who for changing my life after i came out of the Maudsley. before the accident i hadnt watched the old stuff but my good friend simon lent me his bbc vhs tapes and it helped me to recover from that traumatic time. and also often ones childhood is wracked by wetting and soiling but why mock? we are not all the same and to quote william hartnell 'our destiny is in the future' not in the past.
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Post by lfbarfe on Dec 1, 2004 23:27:44 GMT
easy for them to sneer but i thank doctor who for changing my life after i came out of the Maudsley. before the accident i hadnt watched the old stuff but my good friend simon lent me his bbc vhs tapes and it helped me to recover from that traumatic time. and also often ones childhood is wracked by wetting and soiling but why mock? we are not all the same and to quote william hartnell 'our destiny is in the future' not in the past. Thank you, Collie, for posting the funniest thing I have ever read on this forum.
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Post by lfbarfe on Dec 1, 2004 23:31:15 GMT
And before anyone rushes in to condemn me as heartless, I would just like to say that I would not have found Collie's last post funny if I believed for a moment that he had ever been in the Maudsley. Who fans - he's extracting the Michael out of you. How Michael got up there in the first place is your own private matter...
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Post by Gary on Dec 1, 2004 23:46:14 GMT
What sort of image do either of you present to any newcomer to this site looking to know about missing episodes? Bunch of kids.
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Post by lfbarfe on Dec 2, 2004 8:49:50 GMT
What sort of image do either of you present to any newcomer to this site looking to know about missing episodes? Bunch of kids. I've tried to stay out of this thread because I realised that it wasn't exactly presenting the best first impression to newcomers. There were two entrenched positions, each convinced of their viewpoint, and so consensus was never going to be reached. However, when some pseudonymous (Collie Knox was a journalist in the 1930s, one of the first to specialise in celebrity profiles) chap came in with a personal attack on someone I've heard nothing but good about (and who posts under his real name), I felt the need to contribute/defend. And when that person later claimed to have been incarcerated in a mental institution, I felt the need to point out that the story was a risible, cynical attempt to deflect further criticism by the use of a highly unlikely sob story. The stuff about Doctor Who was a joke, and you rose to the bait admirably (I really am baffled by its appeal, but I will defend to the death an adult's right to enjoy a badly-made children's programme). Anyway, your postings haven't exactly been characterised by their maturity, Mr Holden.
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Post by Gary on Dec 2, 2004 9:36:55 GMT
There is little maturity in your own posts rarely either.Lots of sneering and jokes at others expense.If youre talking about false names why pick on just one? There are lots of silly ones here and they go against the rules anyway.I was just looking back to recent postings and the only people contributing properly lately were John Miller mainly but also Matt Sharpe, Andrew Doherty, Laurence Piper, Simon Maclean and Matthew Martin. All the rest is one liners from comedians. Include me in the one liners if you like but at least if I have nothing to add I just keep quiet.
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Post by lfbarfe on Dec 2, 2004 9:49:48 GMT
There is little maturity in your own posts rarely either. I never said there was, so there's no way I can be accused of hypocrisy, unlike yourself. Jokes certainly, sneering - well, maybe that's how it comes across. However, if you chose to read my posts in other subject lines, you'd probably find that I also try to be helpful and useful where I can. I'm not picking on anything. I put the false name references in for your benefit/amusement. I don't really care The main reason for that rule was, if I remember correctly, to stop people hiding behind pseudonyms in order to slag off other members of the forum. Which Collie Knox has done. Naughty Collie. Who seems to have kept this tedious, rambling, bitter thread alive single-handedly until recently. "People contributing properly" = "People with whom Gary Holden agrees", it would seem. Or do you mean people contributing under their real names? If so, I also qualify, as does Gareth R. Ay theng yew. Hypocrisy again. I've felt that you've had nothing to add in many of your contributions. Know thyself. Anyway, can we give it a rest now? Every post we add to this thread is keeping it at the top of the topic list.
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Post by Gary on Dec 2, 2004 9:55:57 GMT
No i've nothing to add often to what the others say.Thats why I limit to a line or two usually.Some more people should do the same. I dont agree with everything the others say either.Those persons I mentioned do try and debate properly though even when other people are being silly.
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Post by Brian Denton on Dec 3, 2004 16:20:39 GMT
Although he has no need of my feeble support, I would just point out that Louis was recently most helpful to me in providing access to a programme I'd missed. I'm sure if he were on Desert Island Discs Sue Lawley would describe him as having a 'wicked sense of humour'....but never a vicious one.
(Apologies Louis, for bringing this topic back to the top of the pile..... I'll get me coat)
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Post by The Wooksta on Dec 5, 2004 0:16:17 GMT
The BBC are unlikely to ever apologise for the destruction of episodes as the people there now are not those responsible for the junkings so why should they apologise for the past mistakes of others? Why should a German born post 1945 apologise for the Holocaust or the Nazi invasion of Poland? Provided the mistakes of the past are taken on board and learned from by the organisation in it's current form, then there's no need for an apology and all the rantings of a group of vocal obsessives - and from the tone of many posts in this thread the interest does border on obsesssion - does not help and will not gain the reply they so desperately seek.
So that's that. All the rest is just tedious name calling and entrenched sniping. Does it get any episodes back? No. Does it further the cause of hunting down missing episodes? No. Does it welcome new people to the board? No, and some of the views espoused are so fanatical they make Abu Hamza look positively liberal.
Please, just let this tiresome drivel end, although many of Louis' posts, jokes, witticisms and put downs have brought tears of laughter to me, for which I thank him.
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Post by Dave Context on Dec 5, 2004 2:08:41 GMT
Correspondence closed. Please?
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Post by collie knox on Dec 5, 2004 10:01:09 GMT
the bbc have a lot to answer for. they forced william hartnell to work long hours and that gave him senile dementia. some actors have had to live the life of a recluse after being in the series and they were unable to find other work after their fine acting performances. these performances were also unrecognised and it is a continuing puzzle how the series never won any drama awards.
if these obsessions are passionate it is because we fans have been ill treated and uncared for. ian levine should have been knighted for servicing a great many fans. i have already written to tony blair asking if the restoration team can receive an award. they did reply to say that i should write to the bbc but not them.
so it is all back to the bbc. they refuse to take fans seriously and treat us with contempt.
do you agree?
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Post by James Phillips on Dec 5, 2004 11:23:59 GMT
ian levine should have been knighted for servicing a great many fans. That, Collie, has to be the quote of the year! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by collie knox on Dec 5, 2004 11:29:24 GMT
what is funny about that? he singlehandedly had to decide on saving a large amount of b/w doctor whos whilst surrounded by other gems which very sadly have never returned. it takes guts to make such a tricky decision and he surely follows into that camp.
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Post by Larry Dart on Dec 5, 2004 17:35:28 GMT
Andy...give it up, eh?
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