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Post by Mark Brown on Nov 29, 2008 12:44:48 GMT
SITCOM: Dad's Army On: BBC 2 Midlands Date: Saturday 13th December 2008 (starting in 14 days) Time: 8:25 pm to 9:00 pm (35 minutes long)
Room at the Bottom. Ian Lavender presents a restored episode of Dad's Army shown for the first time in almost 40 years in colour. Captain Mainwaring is horrified to discover that he is not a commissioned officer. (Stereo, Widescreen, Audio Described, U, 4 Star)
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Post by Peter Elliott on Nov 29, 2008 14:18:58 GMT
Thanks for the heads up on this. I'm guessing this was restored using the colour recovery method from the b+w t/r?
A good episode this one... a pity all the series have been released on DVD so goodness knows how this may be made available on DVD without forcing us all to buy the rest of the third series again.
Look forward to seeing this.
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Post by Andy Howells on Nov 29, 2008 14:55:31 GMT
Well a release with the audio of the recently rediscovered Stripe For frazer TV soundtrack wouldnt be a bad idea. I think we'll have to wait and see if anything else turns up...
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Post by Ash Stewart on Nov 29, 2008 18:13:30 GMT
A good episode this one... a pity all the series have been released on DVD so goodness knows how this may be made available on DVD without forcing us all to buy the rest of the third series again. They'll probably force you to buy the rest of the third series again... Well, either that or force you to buy the box set again.
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Post by Andy Howells on Nov 29, 2008 18:34:36 GMT
A good episode this one... a pity all the series have been released on DVD so goodness knows how this may be made available on DVD without forcing us all to buy the rest of the third series again. They'll probably force you to buy the rest of the third series again... Well, either that or force you to buy the box set again. I don't think so, though I always had the feeling something else would turn up when they released them all on DVD. There is a risk of releasing stuff on DVD when the series are incomplete though, because as soon as you release them something could turn up, but if you wait everyone complains because the BBC won't release them. In Dad's Army's case we have been particularly lucky with missing episode casualties (3 second series eps, a colour version of Room and two christmas Night Inserts) compared to other shows that have loads missing (i.e. Z Cars, TOTP, Dr Who). I'm sure there are clips they could still include as extras and there were a few items of footage featured on the Jonathan Ross special which were too late for inclusion on the box set.
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Post by Peter Elliott on Nov 29, 2008 19:02:17 GMT
I don't think so, though I always had the feeling something else would turn up when they released them all on DVD. There is a risk of releasing stuff on DVD when the series are incomplete though, because as soon as you release them something could turn up, but if you wait everyone complains because the BBC won't release them. In Dad's Army's case we have been particularly lucky with missing episode casualties (3 second series eps, a colour version of Room and two christmas Night Inserts) compared to other shows that have loads missing (i.e. Z Cars, TOTP, Dr Who). Good point about material turning up once incomplete series get released! I'm really pleased that "Dads Army" was treated properly on DVD unlike other classic comedies. "Room At The Bottom" especially looked fantastic cleaned up and given VidFire... I was watching it a couple of weeks ago and one would be forgiven for thinking it's from a b+w VT when of course it isn't which makes this colour version all the more miraculous. With the recoloured "Room", that means every colour episode exists in colour, which when one looks at other shows of the time, is extremely fortunate... especially since in the early 80's the BBC only had b+w copies of quite a few colour episodes. 3 b+w episodes still MIA, but a brilliant survival rate compared to many other shows. I've always viewed "Dads Army" as one the true Jewels in the BBC's crown. It is truly timeless... I genuinely can watch them over and over and always enjoy them. There is something so "homely" and comforting about them. I loved it as a kid, but I find the older I get, the more I truly love and cherish it.
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Post by Ash Stewart on Nov 29, 2008 20:54:35 GMT
I don't think so, though I always had the feeling something else would turn up when they released them all on DVD. There is a risk of releasing stuff on DVD when the series are incomplete though, because as soon as you release them something could turn up, but if you wait everyone complains because the BBC won't release them. Well... take a look at The Likely Lads. They accidentally missed an episode off the release of "all surviving" Likely Lads episodes. They had a chance to put it out either with the Season 1 or 2 DVD release of Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads and did they? No. They waited until a box set of the whole lot was released. So, if you'd got the individual releases, to get this one episode you had to buy everything you'd already bought again.
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Post by Paul Ryan on Dec 2, 2008 1:44:20 GMT
Is any of the recoloured footage available online? I'd love to see it!
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Dec 4, 2008 0:02:17 GMT
Is any of the recoloured footage available online? I'd love to see it! There are three frame grabs from the restored episode in the Radio Times; I've seen the version prior to the final grade and sound layback and it looks excellent. The sound was a bit optical film with various crackles and pops, so the midlands radio and tv recordist who has returned 'A Stripe for Frazer' has provided the soundtrack from his off-air recording. It is marginally superior to the film sound. Regards, Paul
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Post by Robert Manners on Dec 5, 2008 12:55:06 GMT
What BBC programmes that were made in colour on VT but now only remain as Black & White film recordings could not have the colour recovery method used on them?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2008 13:26:18 GMT
There are literally hundreds of them! Too many to list off the top of my head (many many colour eps of series only survive as b/w t/rs). It's a major advance archivally if the process can be further developed and utilised, in conjunction with Vidfire.
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Post by William Martin on Dec 6, 2008 11:40:40 GMT
I wonder if the 1970 totp episode will be next as didn't they experiment with the colour process on this
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Post by Peter Elliott on Dec 6, 2008 16:56:31 GMT
I wonder if the 1970 totp episode will be next as didn't they experiment with the colour process on this Maybe some recoloured tracks will appear in one of the TOTP2 specials over Xmas... albeit with Steve Wright voiceover and stupid onscreen captions...
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Post by Peter Stirling on Dec 6, 2008 22:42:36 GMT
There are literally hundreds of them! Too many to list off the top of my head (many many colour eps of series only survive as b/w t/rs). It's a major advance archivally if the process can be further developed and utilised, in conjunction with Vidfire. kick me if someone has said this before, but the 1970-71 ITV colour strike episodes should be investigated for this process. but it will all depend on how far the technicians went in erasing the colour signal. If they use still used colour cameras and the colour levels actually ended up on the tape, it should work, but if the VTR was re-plumbed and just sent B/W, then it would not work.
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Post by Andy Howells on Dec 7, 2008 9:56:26 GMT
There are literally hundreds of them! Too many to list off the top of my head (many many colour eps of series only survive as b/w t/rs). It's a major advance archivally if the process can be further developed and utilised, in conjunction with Vidfire. kick me if someone has said this before, but the 1970-71 ITV colour strike episodes should be investigated for this process. but it will all depend on how far the technicians went in erasing the colour signal. If they use still used colour cameras and the colour levels actually ended up on the tape, it should work, but if the VTR was re-plumbed and just sent B/W, then it would not work. I find this an interesting one as I've just been watching the episodes of "Doctor At Large" from this period, there are around 6 episodes which were affected and there were 3 of "Please Sir" . I was wondering if exterior scenes for some shows (i.e. Bernard Hedges wedding in Please Sir) might have been filmed in colour as generally the norm for these shows was that the exterior scenes were filmed beforehand then played back in the studio to the audience during the live recording. Saying that its interesting that the Title Sequence for Doctor At Large is dispensed with after a few colour episodes as it has a sepia tint over the black and white film of Barry Evans, I guess because it was filmed in Black and White.
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