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Post by Robert Kenyon on Oct 27, 2008 17:31:17 GMT
Concerning the following in the wikipedia entry on "The Web of Fear": "The Tube sets were reportedly so accurate that the BBC was accused of illegally filming on London Underground property." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_web_of_fearDoes anyone know how far this accusation actually went? i.e. did it eventually become a legal case? If it did, wouldn't it be likely that evidence would have to be presented in the case in the form of a copy of the offending serial? Or, even if not the case, that London Underground might have made/obtained a copy of some episodes to present, if necessary, as evidence. Is there any information on this? |
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Post by Greg H on Oct 27, 2008 17:53:13 GMT
I dont think it went to court or anything; I seem to recall reading that it wasnt massively serious. Shame london underground didnt retain a print as evidence  |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Oct 27, 2008 19:46:00 GMT
And there's absolute no reference to it whatsoever in the Web of Fear production file.
Richard
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Post by David Robinson on Oct 27, 2008 19:56:19 GMT
Shame london underground didnt retain a print as evidence If they did have a copy then you can bet it would have been episode one!! |
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Post by Adrian Gregg on Oct 28, 2008 4:03:24 GMT
I always thought it was of those "beat up" stories in the early 80's DWM.
IE, they saw a clipping or some such in Radio Times.
or my theory two. is the whole thing was made up after one of em saw a copy of epp 1.
no one would be silly enough to deny it or in fact (in the real world) care.. It just made good copy.
I wouldent think anyone would or could have obtained a TR recording of anything .. ever... full stop..
is there any evidence apart from Bill having a bit. yes only a extract. of DIOE. that anyone outside of TVC had anything on TR?
I bet there were loads of other productions of "worth" that featured the underground that that department would have wanted a bit "more" than the aforementioned "kids show"
on the same tack, because the Invasion WAS filmed on Guinness property they would have the missing epps? nahh
yeah. where did epp one come from.?
Oh BTW . never belive anything on Crapedia. its written mostly to fans of a "thing" so you get loads of "rose glasses" types of "truths" and "facts"
On a Wikpedia entry about the goon show they stated that the early recordings could not have been recorded as tape recorders were not as yet available, and the original cut discs of the 1-3rd series could only be played twice and since they had been played were in "a poor state" so the beeb destroyed them.
no none of that is NOW on Wikipedia it has been corrected thankfully. but for more than 4 years people read it.
Of course I know that a Pretty good tape deck was available in 1951 with a Freq Response of 80-9000 CPS (or hurts!) there were many of em. I'm going though some mags Ive got ( a complete run of Radio and hobbies from 39-80) and there were loads and loads of Tape decks around. In the last few years I've even Restored quite a few myself. and the quality of said recordings is not as good as decks made as little as 4-5 years later. they WERE available and in the multitudes..
The same goes for course groove discs (IE Transcription one shot discs)
Ive restored many. and played some of em a few times over (to get a reliable "read") and (not that I try to play back fragile discs more than once anyway) and none have shown any sign of wear between playings. the Beeb would have used "shadowgraph" styli. so pretty much no wear. People think for some reason that steel needles were used on the discs (i think it said that in the pedia comment)
so there we go just some random thoughts on pedia. If you wanna know do the reserch yourself. you know.. books and stuff.. not CRT thingys
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Post by Greg H on Oct 28, 2008 8:17:45 GMT
And there's absolute no reference to it whatsoever in the Web of Fear production file. Richard The london underground thing? Is that another urban myth then?? Im suprised. |
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Post by Greg H on Oct 28, 2008 8:25:00 GMT
Shame london underground didnt retain a print as evidence If they did have a copy then you can bet it would have been episode one!! Or possibly ten pristine copies of episode one  That would be handy. But of course the likelyhood is nill, before it gets picked up as fact! |
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Post by Steve Riley on Oct 28, 2008 8:43:40 GMT
Desperate clutching at straws, I think - stories / musings / speculation like this.
I'd be utterly amazed if any more missing Who turns up anywhere, and I think whatever was left to recover has now been recovered - though I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong.
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Post by Martin Dunne on Oct 28, 2008 11:41:48 GMT
It's not Wikipedia per say. I first read this in Haining (Key to Time?), who would never cite sources. He wrote a biography of Sweeny Todd, providing zero evidence.
Maybe it happened.
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Post by John Andersen on Oct 28, 2008 15:59:51 GMT
I'd be utterly amazed if any more missing Who turns up anywhere, and I think whatever was left to recover has now been recovered. I think you are right. I am becoming weary of searching and only encountering hoaxers, mistakes, and dead ends. Just when you think you might have possibly found something, everything comes crashing down and you feel as if your heart has been ripped out. This doesn't seem to be getting anywhere. |
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Post by M. Wilson on Oct 28, 2008 20:43:19 GMT
Concerning the following in the wikipedia entry on "The Web of Fear": "The Tube sets were reportedly so accurate that the BBC was accused of illegally filming on London Underground property." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_web_of_fearDoes anyone know how far this accusation actually went? i.e. did it eventually become a legal case? If it did, wouldn't it be likely that evidence would have to be presented in the case in the form of a copy of the offending serial? Or, even if not the case, that London Underground might have made/obtained a copy of some episodes to present, if necessary, as evidence. Is there any information on this? I heard this before as well. I just had a quick look through the Times Online archive for 1968 and there is no mention of it. Keyword searches for either "doctor who" or "bbc" + "underground" turn up nothing but TV listings and unrelated stories. And unless you think that Doctor Who was beneath the interest of The Times, they have quite a few articles, including one on Nov 5, 1966 about Troughton becoming the Doctor. So... it's probably just an urban myth, or a story blown out of all proportion from some throwaway comment. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Oct 29, 2008 9:00:22 GMT
So... it's probably just an urban myth, or a story blown out of all proportion from some throwaway comment. I think London Underground probably did get in touch with the BBC, but it certainly wouldn't have gone any further than that and most definitely not a legal case - after all, if they were that concerned then someone from the huge Underground facility on the other side of Wood Lane would have only needed to pop round the corner to Lime Grove to see the sets in the studio. Richard |
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That would be handy.