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Post by Andy Henderson on Apr 17, 2004 15:57:35 GMT
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Post by Matthew K Sharp on Apr 20, 2004 1:53:24 GMT
Hey Andy...
Do you know if it's been stated whether this was a nitrate print or a safety dupe? If it is a nitrate, it makes the find even more remarkable.
(P.S. Perhaps if you'd mentioned that it was Rudolph Valentino fighting Daleks there might have been a few more interested responses...)
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Post by H Hartley on Apr 20, 2004 9:53:31 GMT
Lets hope its a lovely old nitrate and none of that 1950s Eastman rubbish.
O/T Can anyone confirm the rumour that a few British films were lost forever,due to recylcing during WW2 as the war effort needed the silver and other stuff?
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Post by Alan Hayes on Apr 20, 2004 12:07:30 GMT
(P.S. Perhaps if you'd mentioned that it was Rudolph Valentino fighting Daleks there might have been a few more interested responses...) If this forum was worth visiting (like it used to be before it went to the dogs), then I'd be visiting more than once in a week. I think that's the case with a lot of the old regulars. The only replies to new threads tend to be completely inane - present company excluded, Matthew! The recovery is incredible news, particularly considering the film's age. Fascinating.
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Post by Mark Brown on Apr 20, 2004 13:57:11 GMT
If this forum was worth visiting (like it used to be before it went to the dogs), Could you be more specific please?
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Post by Nick Gilbert on Apr 20, 2004 15:34:16 GMT
Could you be more specific please? Presumably Alan wont be back for a week so I'll say a bit instead. I only come here and Mausoleum Club regularly. I think you may be losing out because of the success of the Club. When the Mausoleum Club started I prefered this forum 'cos, in the old format, the threads were displayed immediately without having to click into a subject area. There was a steady flow of interesting info and discussion ie something worth reading every couple of days. However I think my expectations have changed. I now expect (and at the Mausoleum Club get..) a number of interesting things to read per day. The Club's remit is wider than your's of course. If I hear something specific about missing material then I still head here but there hasn't been much to talk about for some time. I'm surprised nothing has been said about the Out of the Unknown episode which is about to resurface. A couple of points - there's a lot of chatter about various programme's archive status ie 'does xxx exist?' Should these requests be in their own section? Secondly the forum is only as good as the people who post. You have some people here who's opinion I respect but you do seem to have more than your fair share of time wasters. Not sure what can be done about that but I hope your seemingly malicious posters will give it a rest. I think that there are many good things about this forum. I may only visit a couple of times a week but that's much more frequently than I visit most forums. I've looked back over recent posts and apart from the 'Peter Summer' stuff one can't really say it's 'gone to the dogs'.
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Post by Andy Henderson on Apr 20, 2004 16:39:55 GMT
I was under the impression it was a nitrate print. As far as I know there aren't that may British feature films missing at all! The BFI has managed to grab hold of a very high percentage of releases. Better than any American archive dealing with their own films. There are gaps, but not anything particularly significant (compared with other archives), except perhaps the Edwardian Kinemacolor films, some early part talkies and colour films. Even the large number of polarised projected dual strip 3-D films shown at the Festival of Britain exist. Not that 3-D films on open cast mining are particularly wonderful (I kid you not).
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Post by Ian Woodhouse on Apr 21, 2004 10:00:12 GMT
Whilst I think this forum has been somewhat quieter of late I agree with Nick that the site hasn't exactly 'gone to the dogs'.
Each of the forums I visit on a regular basis (Roobarb's, The Mausoleum, The DW Restoration Team and this one) has its own characteristics and quirks. Roobarb's and The Mausoleum tie for the most lively but the former, IMHO, is quite simply the most friendly forum I have encountered - that's not to say that the others aren't helpful it's just that Roobarb's seems to have more of a sense of humour about it.
This site and the DWRT forum were, to me at least, a little intimidating when I happened upon them as they are geared towards the more technical end of the spectrum. It took me a while to summon up the courage to post but once you get used to the format of each of the forums you tailor your queries and responses to the particular site.
As I said on another thread (one of the Peter Summers ones) I've learned a lot from this forum and am full of respect for those people who certainly know a damn sight more than I do. Like Nick, if a missing episode surfaces this is the first place I head.
As I said on the thread mentioned above, a lot of people who are passionate about vintage tv and film became that way because of an interest one particular programme and it appears to me at least that one of those programmes is Dr Who. The thing about DW fans, however, is that they are mostly of the belief that it is only Dr Who episodes that are missing and when they head here (being mostly used to posting on more inane, hysterical fanboy sites) under the misapprehension that this site is going to be choc-full of discussions about DW they get a little tetchy and defensive. Sure, discussion about missing episodes of DW has its place on here but that is not the purpose of the site (correct me if I'm wrong). There is, however, a small minority of people on this forum who have a very snobby attitude to DW and seem to genuinely resent it when an episode turns up - this is surely bound to happen as the search for DW episodes is much more active than for other missing material (again, correct me if I'm wrong).
All in all I enjoy all of the forums I post on but for different reasons. If I want to post something silly or feel inclined to indulge in a bit of banter I'll go to Roobarb's; if I want to ask a question about vintage tv The Mausoleum has done me proud and if I feel capable of contributing something sensible to a discussion on here I will do so. I would be genuinely sorry to see this site go down the pan.
God that went on longer than I planned.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Apr 21, 2004 13:56:05 GMT
Could you be more specific please? Of course. When I first came to Missing Episodes, it was populated by people with an interest in (and knowledge of) the recovery of missing programmes that went beyond bitching, making pointless or unsubstantiated comments, even being rude to people who dared to answer questions that had been posed. OK, so there were a few trolls, but find me an internet forum that doesn't suffer that blight. The thing is, recently, the amount of people posting under handles (some of which are undoubtedly from people posting under multiple identities) has increased and moderation here has been pretty much non-existant. I only have so much time to check forums and I can't be bothered to read through a swathes of inane, off-topic and blinkered posts. The forum software is possibly the culprit, as it makes posting under multiple identities dead easy, since you can post as a guest. (I'd post as a member if only I could sodding log in!) If people don't perceive that the forum has gone downhill in the last few months, then fair enough, but I see less and less reason to come here. (And, in response to Nick Gilbert's suggestion, in my case it's not because of the relative liveliness of other fora, it's just that Missing Episodes has become so unfocused of late and it seems a higher proportion of trolls wend their way here than before.) Best, Alan
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Post by Alan Hayes on Apr 21, 2004 13:59:48 GMT
"that went beyond pregnant doging,"
The bad language filter is also in need of attention! That was meant to say "that went beyond b i t c h i ng"
Hmmm...
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