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Post by Paul Smith on Jun 23, 2008 19:03:23 GMT
The PasB documentation on the BBC Who site has several missing pages, so can anyone tell me what the tape recording numbers (eg VT/4T/XXXXX) for the following episodes are?
Dalek Invasion of Earth ep1
Celestial Toymaker ep4
War Machines ep2
Power of the Daleks ep6
Web of Fear eps3-6
I'm hoping some of these blanks can be filled in from codes on surviving film recordings, as I understand the last 5 digits are the same.
Also, is it known (perhaps from the f/r) what the code for the Pilot episode video recording was.
And one last oddity: the PasB for the week of Dalek Invasion ep1 lists full details (including cast) for Planet of Giants ep4! Is the code given (VT/4T/23891) the original ep4 video recording or is it really Dalek Invasion 1?. The code listed for Planet of Giants 3 is 35/6T/23675 - would this be the same end-number as one of the ep3 or 4 tapes (if so, which) or a completely new code?
Thanks for any help.
Cheers
P
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jun 24, 2008 21:53:57 GMT
The PasB documentation on the BBC Who site has several missing pages, so can anyone tell me what the tape recording numbers (eg VT/4T/XXXXX) for the following episodes are? Dalek Invasion of Earth ep1 - VT/4T/23897 Celestial Toymaker ep4 - VT/4T/32137 War Machines ep2 - VT/4T/33163 Power of the Daleks ep6 - 35/6T/36252 Web of Fear eps3-6 - VT/4T/43230, 43430, 43401 & 43474 VT/T/19789 The correct codes are as follows: Planet of Giants Original Episode 3 - VT/4T/23675 Planet of Giants Original Episode 4 - VT/4T/23871 Planet of Giants Transmitted Episode 3 - 35/6T/23675 The Dalek Invasion of Earth Episode 1 - VT/4T/23897 Richard |
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Post by Paul Smith on Jun 24, 2008 23:53:45 GMT
Thanks, Richard. I figured if anyone knew it'd be your good self. Much appreciated.
Cheers
P
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Post by Paul Smith on Jun 25, 2008 0:09:29 GMT
Actually, quick follow-up question (well, two).
That number for the Pilot episode is the same as for the broadcast episode 1.
Would they have literally used the same tape, or just kept the number as it was a remount?
And would the same apply for the two recordings of The Daleks ep1?
Cheers
P
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Post by Andrew Martin on Jun 27, 2008 15:28:26 GMT
Actually the recording number for the pilot was VT/P/19491 - the project number was the same though, albeit that the pilot was DR63/0382 and the tx'd version was 2363/0382 - the alphabetical coding for department was changed to the new numeric system that allowed sub-divisions of the Drama Group to be indicated - e.g. 23 means drama serials (22 was series, 21 was plays).
The recording number is not the tape number - it just indicates a recording session, though it was (usually) kept for dubs of the same material, e.g. to film recording. Tape numbers were originally just numbers, the first of them originallly indicating the length of the tape, so a number starting 6 would indicate a 60 minute tape. The actual spool number for the pilot was 6376, that for the tx'd episode was 673 (i.e. they were different tapes). Later spool numbers lost that element, and started with letters, e.g. L or F; modern spool numbers indicate tape format and in some cases regional origin as a letter prefix.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jun 27, 2008 17:46:58 GMT
Actually the recording number for the pilot was VT/P/19491 What's the "P" stand for, Andrew? It can't be "pilot" unless they applied it in retrospect when they decided to re-record the episode. Richard |
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Post by Paul Smith on Jun 28, 2008 11:06:53 GMT
Thanks, Andrew, most illuminating.
Found another quick query: on the PasB for The Invasion ep6, the recording number is listed as VTM/6LT/4779. This must surely by a typo as the last number should be five digits, yes? What should it be?
Cheers
P
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jun 28, 2008 11:32:03 GMT
Found another quick query: on the PasB for The Invasion ep6, the recording number is listed as VTM/6LT/4779. This must surely by a typo as the last number should be five digits, yes? What should it be? The correct code for The Invasion #6 is VTM/6LT/47792. Richard |
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Post by Paul Smith on Jun 28, 2008 15:18:02 GMT
Thanks, Richard.
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Post by Andrew Martin on Jun 30, 2008 12:56:51 GMT
Actually the recording number for the pilot was VT/P/19491 What's the "P" stand for, Andrew? It can't be "pilot" unless they applied it in retrospect when they decided to re-record the episode. Richard It is 'P' for 'pilot' Richard - there are lots of other examples of this being used for pilot shows. I suppose it doesn't necessarily mean that it was necessarily *not* intended for tx, if it turned out ok... It's the original clock - there would have been no point in replacing it? |
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